Comments:Asbestos controversy aboard Scientology ship Freewinds
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Interesting twist in events
Sink the ship
Just get rid of it, buy a new one. Scientology is trying to avoid a PR disaster by putting people's lives at stake.
- The mob doesn't dare sink their death ship: it would be "counter intention." The mob bought the vessel for ten million USA dollars chiefly because it was loaded with blue asbestos: Hubbard could not afford the boat otherwise. The ship was sold for scuttle costs: the value of what could be removed from the vessel and sold, while the hulk would then be towed to a deep ocean trench and scuttled. By year 1986 everyone knew of the extreme danger of asbestos in general and the worse, blue asbestos, in particular: to remove the asbestos from the vessel and make it safe would have cost much more than the vessel was worth. Of course the Scientology crime syndicate cared and cares nothing for human lives. --Desertphile (talk) 23:13, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- It's a Health issue of public interest. Here's another one: Guards at Nova Scotia jail refuse to work after asbestos discovery. I'll be working on a few more pieces related to asbestos in the coming days. Cheers, Cirt (talk) 21:27, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
- Swapped it out for class action lawsuit in Japan - Asbestos victims file 6.6 billion yen class action lawsuit in Tokyo. Cirt (talk) 08:45, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Well yeah, I can understand that, but as someone that reads Wikinews nearly every morning for an expected summary of top news stories in a simple and condensed form all I can say is that doesn't anyone just want to say COME ON! Another Scientology story?! This one hasn't even been picked up by many major news sources! Let's stick to the real stories people not just the ones bashing Scientology!. Just saying...188.8.131.52 —Preceding comment was added at 22:01, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
- Well, some places are picking it up: Asbestos controversy aboard Scientology ship Freewinds at Google, and Asbestos controversy aboard Scientology ship Freewinds in a search of blogs. Cirt (talk) 22:05, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
Yes, I can understand that, however I'm talking about The New York Times Online and USA Today and other more mainstream news sources not www.brujula.net and mensnewsdaily.com and while yes I understand that Wikinews can't just copy all the articles on the major news networks but doing a search of Scientology on Wikinews reveals maybe a few too many anti-Scientology stories which almost suggests a bit of a bias, not that I'm accusing anything but just observing just how many small-time Scientology events are reported on Wikinews.184.108.40.206 —Preceding comment was added at 22:14, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
- Well it certainly seems like at least lately there has not been as much reporting of the "small-time Scientology events" on Wikinews. It should be noted that this subject was first reported by many many other media sources before it was covered by Wikinews, as per the sources listed in the Sources subsection. Cirt (talk) 22:25, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
Curaçao was warned
In year 2002 I wrote to Ports Authority, Curaçao (P.O. Box 689. Curacao, Netherlands Antilles email@example.com), about the problem; I also warned customs and immigration of the health risks of the vessel. H.V.I. assured me my warning would be looked into; I heard nothing else from them since then, 6 years ago.
I sailed on the MS Boheme in 1979.I wonder how my lungs look after 30 years of possible asbestos contamination.I had no idea my little cruise ship was a death trap.Never heard a word about it in the news.Only the people after it became Freewinds are at risk?I THINK WE ALL DESERVE THE TRUTH!ALL THE ELDERLY WHO LEFT MIAMI FOR A (happy ship cruise)COULD BE DECEASED NOW BECAUSE OF AN AT THE TIME UNTOLD TRUTH ABOUT(blue)ASBESTOS. Steven M. Clements —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.127.116.11 (talk) 01:09, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
somebody had to know!
A ship that was built to be a ferry in those days were not fancy, more of a bus with steel walls, to change it to a lux passenger ship and a quiet training center requires dampening of engine room vaibration of steel walls and bulkheads and ceilings that require foam panels or rubber or cork panals over the steel plating with wood or F/G finish paneling. The cheap way to go would be to cover the steel with sheet rock then paint over it to save thousands of dollars in time and material, places that can not be panneled can be sprayed on then painted, early sheet rock had aspestos in it, this can be found in older buidings and engine rooms on ships for fire prevention but never in the passenger rooms or access areas. Whoever was in charge of the refit cost at the church made a decission to use aspestos sheet rock and paint as a cheap and time saving way of refitting had to know, and so did the contractor. I wonder how many of the contractors workers have died because of breathing the aspestos dust in confined unventilated spaces. find this and you will find the villan.