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this is sad. Hillary should have lost every vote cast on MI and FL ballots. If states are not punished for breaking rules, why should rules be followed?
- Well, it would be unfair to completely take away the vote from the people of Michigan and Florida just because their government made some bad decisions; besides, the Democrats had to give Michigan and Florida some representation to have any chance of winning those states in the general election. Clinton did technically "win" those states, and if a compromise that gives her a few more delegates is what it takes to unify the party, then it's worth it. She has virtually no chance of winning anymore, regardless of if she gets a small advantage from Michigan and Florida. 126.96.36.199 14:28, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Their votes in the general election will remain; we're only talking about primaries here. And I see no problem with not seating FL and MI; the DNC warned them of the consequences of their act and they went ahead anyway. That's called being an adult and facing the music. Now, FL has a legitimate problem - their GOP state adversaries helped get them in trouble with the DNC, so I can understand. MI - and especially Hillary - have no such excuse. Hillary's hypocrisy re: the Michigan primary is so palpable it's an embarassment to me as a former Clinton supporter, and her comparison of it to the sufferings of the people of Zimbabwe was insulting, insensitive, and shallow. Hillary only "won" MI's primary when you consider that Obama wasn't even on the ballot.
- And while it's true Hillary can no longer win, nothing can stop her from destroying Obama's hope of victory except her own sense of ethics - which I now have the deepest qualms about. If she chooses to run as an independant, she will fracture the liberal electorate and once again, the left will snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. What a terrible shame that her ego must stand in the way of the left's best chance to finally turn this country around. --on WP as User:Kasreyn.
I hope the Florida and Michigan electorate vote Republican in November because of the fact their votes only constitute half of all other states! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.8.131.52 (talk) 19:45, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Florida and Michigan should have run party caucuses at their own expense to assign their delegates. The rules committee banned their delegates because they broke the rules, and that should not have been forgiven. Running caucuses would have put them back in compliance with the rules. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.108.40.206 (talk) 22:33, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- 220.127.116.11, I strongly disagree. Despite all this division among the Democratic Party, we must keep in mind that Obama and Clinton are still fairly similar in their views; either one of them would be a much better alternative to
George Bush III McCain. It is important to keep a wider perspective than a single disagreement over delegates.
- 18.104.22.168, regardless of what the governments of Michigan and Florida should have done, the important thing is that they reached an agreement. We should move on from the whole issue and vote based on who will be best for the country, not out of bitterness over the primaries. 22.214.171.124 13:48, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
political warfare ahead —Preceding unsigned comment added by 126.96.36.199 (talk) 04:20, 19 June 2008 (UTC)