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[edit] FAQ

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[edit] Random idosynchrasis

[edit] Open issues

Longer term/ stuff i'm aware but not on my immediate list of things to fix (yell at me if you think these are important and should be a priority)

Other requests (aka stuff other people reported that i'm not planning to do in short term):

I could see how that could be useful (adding a bug report page link), but i don't want to make the interface too cluttered. As for your second request. It currently says, can not find word, and has a more link which links to the page. that should probably be improved. thank you for the feedback. Bawolff ☺☻ 00:56, 21 October 2009 (UTC)


[edit] Browser-related potential problem

Firefox extension noscript may block scripts from en.wikinews, resulting in issues as pictured here. Solution: Have user whitelist wiktionary.org resolved this problem. - Amgine | t 21:48, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

I wouldn't really clasify this as a problem - if someone disables javascript, they should not be suprised when the javascript does not work. (the issue above would be blocking scripts from wiktionary (with either xslt defined as a script or having css disabled as well) - as if you had either en wikinews, or fr wikinews blocked, you would not be able to get to that step) Bawolff ☺☻ 22:09, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Clic or shortcut?

[...]Au lieu du double-clic ou triple-clic pour le gadget, on peut utiliser une combinaison de touche clavier (Ctrl+F11 par ex) que l'utilisateur peut changer.

[...]Instead of double-clic third-clic and so one, we could use a key-combination (Ctrl+F11 by ex) that the user could change. Otourly (talk) 13:21, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
[1] hop Otourly (talk) 13:24, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
If we use a key combo, how do we know which word to lookup. unless he means single-click, plus a key combo. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:59, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
I agree with this request as an aditional alternative (not instead of double-clicking). We can perform a partial selection of words or a combined selection of a phrasal verb and then use the key-combination shortcut. Gustronico (talk) 17:44, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
That sounds like a good idea. Bawolff ☺☻ 04:08, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
That's good. Thank you! Gustronico (talk) 08:15, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Japanese word margins

According to Makato, determining word boundaries may be a problem for the script in Japanese. - Amgine | t 18:27, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Request for translations

See /how to adapt to another language. Or you could just leave the translation here, but it might take me a little while to get to it.

[edit] Languages available

  unstable xslt example (unstable) live xslt enabled
Deutsch waiting on Bawolff non-exisitant  
English good

[2] [3] [4] [5] high count

 slightly outdated X
Español Good [6] slightly outdated X
Français good [7] up to date X
Italiano good [8] slightly outdated X
Japanese Good Installed x
Latin waiting on Bawolff   non-existant  
Nederlands outdated [9] good X
Norsk (bokmål)‬ waiting on translation non-exisitant  
Polish waiting bawolff [10] not ready  
Portuguese done [11] updated X
Русский good [12] [13] [14] done x
中文 To translate and fix the single word selection bug
हिन्दी To translate

Want this in your language? To speed up the process, consider helping me by translating the following messages ($1 is where stuff gets substituted. leave it in) (Please also specify language code, as well as an admin contact at the specific language wiktionary in question whom i can bug with with re-sync requests)

[edit] Deutsch (DE)(left to right)

[edit] PL

[edit] EL

Here is a translation of this points:

--Egmontaz♤ συζήτηση 17:55, 20 Νοεμβρίου 2009 (UTC)

From: [15] Otourly (talk) 18:16, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] LA

Latin translation, from Wiktionary's EncycloPetey:

More work for Bawolff! \o/ - Amgine | t 21:48, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] CA

  • © Viccionari. Disponible sota CC-BY-SA 3.0
  • Error:
  •  » Més
  •  » Crea-la
  • No s'ha trobat cap coincidència per a «$1».

Pasqual (talk) 17:56, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] EO

[16]--→ Airon Ĉ 12:11, 30 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Otourly (talk • contribs)

[edit] Translation and Translatewiki

Why do you not transform the LookupHover javascript in a Wikimedia extensions and use the power of the translatewiki ? Crochet.david (talk) 18:32, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

That would take it from a simple javascript to requiring it's own extension? That doesn't seem...good. --ShakataGaNai ^_^ 18:39, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
For now, it's a simple javascript. But one never knows what the future holds.Crochet.david (talk) 18:46, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
I think the point is that it is simple javascript and doesn't need to be anything more, since it already does it's job. Plus if you make it a mediawiki plugin then you can't propagate it out to blogs and such. --ShakataGaNai ^_^ 18:49, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
If it were to become an extension, it would essentially be an extension that just loaded a script. (which i geuss there is nothing wrong with, some people might find that easier to install). However the issue with translatewiki, which well very appealing, the translation doesn't just involve translating a few key phrases, it also involves modifying some rather complicated (And quite fragile) regexs that screen scrape wiktionary, since each language definition uses slightly different markup. This requires some technical knowladge, beyond simply translating words. Bawolff ☺☻ 19:51, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Problem with French language

Accents at begin and end of words are legal in many languages. For example, on French wikibooks, when I click on "désactivé" word, I get "Could not retrieve definition of desactiv".

Also error messages should be translated. --DavidL (talk) 23:50, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

The error message is translated (I could [have] sworn that was translated. must be losing my mind. Its translated now, just needs to be posted to fr wiktionary.). When I click on the word, I get "(Français) Du verbe désactiver." [17] The issue with accents at the end of the word was fixed weeks ago. Perhaps you have an old (really old) cached version of the script. Try doing a hard refresh of the page where you clicked the word. Apperently this is a different issue with accents (Its caused by their being extra whitespace at the end of the word that was not stripped properly). If you do a hard refresh it should be fixed now. Thanks for the bug report. Bawolff ☺☻ 05:24, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Particularity of the Wikizionario

Hi, for the wikt it, Wim_b has requested me that we should add the local project feedback:

The second link should be associated to it:wikt:Wikizionario:Feedback by adding a new section with the article link in title. Then the user will complete the body of the request. Otourly (talk) 22:30, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

That should definitly be do-able. Should the bottom link look as follows (If it was an entry for sample word):

» Crea » richiedila

? Bawolff ☺☻ 22:56, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Wim_b have ask this it:wikt:Wikizionario:Bar#Considerazioni; It work with china writing [18]! I'm proud of you! Otourly (talk) 23:48, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
On en wikt they also have a feedback but it seems more difficult for edit wikt:Wiktionary:Feedback (monthly self-archive) Otourly (talk) 00:00, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Phonetic and sound

As a good seller, I've promised the moon to to convince Wikispecies:Wikispecies:Village_Pump#Wiktionary_Hover:_a_JavaScript_on_double-click: is it possible to start the development of the displaying of the wiktionaries phonetic and sound, which would ones of the most important aspect of this project, please? JackPotte (talk) 22:27, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Yes, but it'd take time. This would have to be implemented for each language seperately. Bawolff ☺☻ 13:25, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Reach

Otourly is tracking the ever-expanding reach of wiktLookUp. - Amgine | t 04:01, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Wow, thats awesome. Bawolff ☺☻ 13:26, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Feedback from the Chinese side

As our fellow said, there's a very big problem with ideograms ;). JackPotte (talk) 14:08, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Script conflicts with "Edit pages on double-click"

I'm using the script on Commonms and also have "Edit pages on double-click" activated in the preferences. Unfortunately, both parts can't be used together (unoess on special pages, which are localized almost anytime). It would be great if you could find another way than double-clicking. (See also User talk:Otourly on Commons where I originally asked this). --The Evil IP address (talk) 23:52, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

There's a couple ways arround this. First of all, you can hold down shift well double clicking to edit, and not hold down shift to look up a word. Second of all, you can enable the reverseShift option (If your not sure how to do that, i can help you), and use the key combo ctrl+shift+l to look things up. Cheers. Bawolff ☺☻ 18:20, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Unhiding too early

Displaying the window first and changing its contents second is ugly. Try doubleclicking on a word, then clicking away to hide the window, then doubleclicking another. First the previous definition will show up, then an empty window with the (C) footer, and the actual definition only after that. --Tgr (talk) 08:57, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Done You're right that is ugly. It should now be fixed. Thankyou for your feedback. Bawolff ☺☻ 17:15, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
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