Talk:Firefox 1.0 Internet Browser released by Mozilla Foundation

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I change the bit about how Firefox is "called Camino" on OS X. This was simply inaccurate. Come on guys, that was really obvious; this should not have been a green article. - Prell

Neutrality[edit]

"(...)The browser has received critical acclaim and is seen by many as a competitor to Microsoft's Internet Explorer" -> This paragraph could be better. It seems there is a little bias here and no neutrality. Who says Firefox is better("critical acclain")? The users? The magazine editors? Can you prove that?--carlosar 01:15 Nov 18 2004 (UTC)

My suggestion is change to: Firefox has grown rapidly in popularity, with a Preview Release of the 1.0 version surpassing 10 million downloads in days. The Microsoft's Internet Explorer, a competitor browser, currently holds over 90% market share according to polls.

or something like that.-carlosar 01:15 Nov 18 2004 (UTC)

Neutrality fix[edit]

I have made a little change. Reason:Fix a probable Neutrality problem.--carlosar 01:45 Nov 18 2004 (UTC)


Firefox has grown rapidly in popularity, with a Preview Release of the 1.0 version surpassing 10 million downloads in days. Microsoft Internet Explorer, a competing browser, holds between 75-90% of the browsing market share. -> I think it is much better. It is ok now. --carlosar 01:55 Nov 18 2004 (UTC)

The prior version is factually accurate and presents the critic's acclaim as their own, not Wikinews'. I've heard no one say IE has a market share of 75%. Reports on the decline of IE market share talk of a slip from 9x to 9x%, etc. It's simply overwhelming. 75% is less accurate than the existing version. The browser has received critical acclaim and is seen by many as a competitor to Microsoft's Internet Explorer, which currently holds over 90% market share. --119 04:04, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Sorry, reading it more, just got home. "over 90% according to polls" is not accurate as that's just not how web metrics are recorded...

Support for critical acclaim: From Firefox site: “Beware of spyware. If you can, use the Firefox browser.” - USA Today

“Better than Internet Explorer by leaps and bounds.” - FORBES

Others: "Despite its small flaws, Firefox is an excellent browser that is within a two years of unseating Microsoft IE from its throne." PCWorld

"Move over, Internet Explorer. Feature-studded and secure Mozilla Firefox 1.0 is a safer, better choice for Internet browsing." CNet

"All told, Firefox is clean and fast. If you want a browser that respects your PC intelligence and helps you get things done, Firefox is a good place to start." PC Magazine

{Written by Joshtek: From PC Format magazine issue 169 p18: "The free, alternative [to Internet Explorer] - and in our opinion, superior - browser [known as Mozilla FireFox] is so well-loved by its users that they're now donating money to find its development." }


Market share: "Internet Explorer held more than 95 percent of the U.S. browser market for several years, but its share dropped to 94.7 percent in July and had declined further to 92.9 percent on Oct. 29, WebSideStory Inc., a San Diego Web metrics company, said Tuesday." Internet Explorer loses market share, another

Neutrality Problem[edit]

I think we should prevent saying things like:"this is better than that", unless there is clearly a consensus (what it is not this case because I doubt Microsoft agrees - whether MS is right, or not ). If we do that we are in risk of advocating tendencies, what we should do not.

Anyway, even if you want to emit an opinion, you must say clearly it is a opinion of someone, like this:"InfoWorld says XXXX software is better than that...etc". Another option is: you prove XXXX is better than YYYY by showing an reliable technicall test. Another thing: there will be always magazines saying that "XXX is better than that YYYY" or "YYY is better than XXX". A magazine can be biased and we must considering this.

It think we must be neutral, the more we can. --carlosar Nov 18 14:54:51 UTC 2004

I have made some little changes. Take a look, I think it is better now. --carlosar Nov 18 15:10 UTC 2004

Market Share[edit]

Updated the market share and source links.