Talk:Israeli military confirms the use of white phosphorus bombs in the Gaza Strip

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There has not been any copyright infragment. If there is show me were I can fix it but like I said I compared the 2 articles and there completely different. ~andimahony

Changing around a few words or replacing a few here and there with others is still copyvio. The first sentence is about 90% the same as the first sentence on Press TV, as the template says. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 20:47, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There seems to be more detail on this in an article from haaretz yesterday. It describes the two types of phosphorous weapons used in Gaza, and refers to a reserve paratrooper brigade as the responsible party. http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1057361.html

Overly excited troops makes it a little better than crazed officers but the IDF has to revise their training methods for greater discipline. I think that could be a good angle for this. 65.1.171.163 22:48, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Review[edit]

Source re 10,000 rockets[edit]

A recent edit was made changing "Nearly 10,000 rockets have been fired into Northern Israel grom the Strip between 2001 and January of 2009" so that it says "Southern Israel" instead. I looked into the sources to find out what's what, but couldn't find any reference to this fact, regardless of whether its 'southern' or 'northern'. Where is this from? Wikidsoup (talk) 20:17, 23 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"southern" is in the AP article "Israel insists on guarantees that Hamas stop smuggling weapons into Gaza and stop firing rockets at southern Israel, while Hamas wants Gaza's borders open."
The number seems to be a typo - see the Wikipedia article, which seems to get its figures from Israeli sources. See w:File:Number_of_Morter_and_Rocket_Attacks_2001_to_Late_2008V4.jpg for the source. Also File:Qasam_graph2002-2007.svg and File:MonthlyRocketHits.svg.
I don't think "nearly 1000" is disputed so I'll change it.
--InfantGorilla (talk) 20:37, 23 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks IG! Wikidsoup (talk) 21:13, 23 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Isn't going that far back for a high number absurd? The context of the article is the most recent Israeli assault on Gaza. If it is to become a historical article only then would that sentence be appropriate, and would be required to be accompanied by a total count of the numbers killed by the IDF over the same span. 65.1.171.163 00:49, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please confirm that the number of injured was 500 as stated at the bottom of the article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.82.59.9 (talkcontribs)

Good catch. 5,450 were wounded according to Press TV, with at least 5,300 confirmed by multiple sources in the wikipedia article on Op. Cast Lead. 65.1.171.163 02:53, 25 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"...to try and stop rockets being fired into Israel."[edit]

That part is poorly written and barely neutral. Abbreviating the term "IDF" is purely colloquial. Is there no main article on these actions? Even in the "more articles" link on the template, I can only find "Conflict: Day 20" and even in that article I find no link to "Day 1". RTG (talk) 10:22, 25 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't believe this story is accurate. It cites "a report" but doesn't identify it. To my knowledge (considerable on the subject), Israel has only confirmed the use of white phosphorus for smoke screens--and has emphatically denied using it as a weapon at all. You might want to check (and identify) your source of this report.