User talk:Bawolff/Sandbox/Column-test

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Columns[edit]

I like columns. I think this would be a great way to do it after a couple issues were worked out.

Problems[edit]

  1. Images (they now would interupt flow)
    1. Float it outside the column div. Works but you loose a column
    2. Float it inside. Positioning hard, interupts text
  2. Columns too long.
    1. Use height atribute, and posibly overlow too make prety horizontal scroll bars.
      1. Tested. User:Bawolff/Sandbox/Column-test/U.S. Supreme Court: Death penalty for juveniles is unconstitutional Works great. slight problem with scroll mouses. totally invisible to non-supporting browsers.
  3. Non supporting browsers
    1. Just looks like it used too
      1. Opera has issues with long scroll test. Bawolff ☺☻Smile.png 22:57, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
    2. Will be beter once Fx 1.5 is released
    3. hopefully more browsers will follow
  4. Columns aren't as user-friendly in browsers. In print, they work because they stop you from either having really tall paper or lots of page turns. But on screen, having to jump from the bottom of the page back to the top isn't very usable. --Frankie Roberto 11:01, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
    1. Thats what height atribute is for. The idea is that all the columns are on one screen and you scroll horizontally to get more. Their also useful for speed reading (or thats what people tell me, I can't speed read.) Bawolff ☺☻Smile.png 22:57, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
    2. Agree with images issue. Will need to work with template for displaying inline images? (need to research the standard?)
      1. When I tried puting images inline it made the column as wide as the image. maybe using column-span, but i don't know if fx supports it. [1]Bawolff ☺☻Smile.png 23:04, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
    3. Column length can be controled, to a degree, by using sections to break article into blocks which are columnized. Perhaps use of a sectioning template to create section breaks? - Amgine 19:57, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
  5. Is this standards-based? Does it display in any browser other than Firefox 1.5? Because if not, I don't think we should use it. Why exactly doesn't it work in Firefox 1.0.x? - McCart42 (talk) 19:46, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
    1. Standards based, Kinda. this is in CSS3. Its kind of like the rounded corners in the French wikinews. see also http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/CSS3_Columns . Doesn't work in 1.0x because it wasn't implamented t'll 1.5. Bawolff ☺☻Smile.png 22:57, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
  • Hmm...I can see pro and con on this one. On one hand, it's only a draft, and not really an accepted W3C standard (as I understand it). However, unlike some of Microsoft's "embrace and extend" non-standard additions to HTML, it supports "Graceful Degradation" which just makes it look like it used to for those not using the latest Firefox version. I would hesitantly support this if it came up for a vote. - McCart42 [[User_talk:McCart42|(talk)]] 05:13, 20 November 2005 (UTC)