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Award[edit]

The Original Barnstar
I, Bddpaux, hereby award you this barnstar for your training materials, which are extremely cool!!


--Bddpaux (talk) 21:33, 30 October 2013 (UTC)










Did I say extremely cool?![edit]

I meant super-exceptionally extremely cool! That's some serious design work. I am such a hack when it comes to stuff like that!! --Bddpaux (talk) 21:37, 30 October 2013 (UTC)


Litigation for Varanasi Heritage intensifies[edit]

2154638 Please check the talk page history before reviewing.User:Rahulkepapa 17:02, 16 November 2013 (UTC)~ I agree with the removal of unessential interviews. I have added some relevant categories. Two are new. May be removed if now are too many

Done ! Thenks for the suggestions ---- Rahulkepapa (talk) 09:40, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Privileges?[edit]

Seems like an RFP thing, not a water-cooler thing, to me. Is community discussion called for? --Pi zero (talk) 15:03, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Could be either. The conference session made it clear that wherever the the process is, it needs to be only for this particular thing. I originally had it placed on the water cooler for miscellaneous. But yeah, having it as a request for a specific right request instead of a water cooler discussion would be good, especially if it appeared in the recent changes like other requests for rights. --LauraHale (talk) 16:36, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
A page specifically for requesting this particular priv? Well, we gave flaggedrevs privs a separate page. And hooking it into {{votings}} should be straightforward. --Pi zero (talk) 16:47, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
Yes, because educators need it to be easy to find. Also, it puts a burden on the community so we need resources to handle it. --LauraHale (talk) 17:06, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

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--Bddpaux (talk) 21:57, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Speier article[edit]

By-and-large, what we're looking at here is an extremely short interview article. That's fine and certainly newsworthy in all respects, but it just troubles me as to why she (or her handlers) only answered two of your questions (another reason why I personally loathe interviewing via e-mail...... I mean, do you think Walter Cronkite ever had to put up with crap like that?).....anyhoo, I tweaked the lede just a smidge.....I read through it twice and there was just something non-neutral in its tone....I couldn't put my finger on it, but it was there.

I like to add actual quotes to the interviewee's statements.--Bddpaux (talk) 04:52, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Yeah. Well, she answered them which is better than others. I am going to the Paralympic Games with US media accreditation. I want to be able to write about the US Paralympics in advance as my coverage of them is limited. The interview was longer but not all questions answered. Alas and woe. Still, no one else has commented on the Paralympics period in a general sense that I can see from the US House and one comment on the record is nice. I know of a case or two involving complaints about classification where congress people stepped in but that is it. --LauraHale (talk) 06:32, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks much[edit]

Thank you for this article.

It'd be great to see additional interesting articles about this member of Congress.

Cheers,

-- Cirt (talk) 17:23, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

 :) No problem. Her media person took my request seriously enough to provide responses, unlike some other congresspeople. Not sure how much follow up I would do on them but if others do, then I can pass along contact info. --LauraHale (talk) 17:36, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
Perhaps you could do another article on her about other different topics in the future. Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 18:09, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

Cristiano Ronaldo tops Neymar and Messi on most valuable Wikipedia edits[edit]

This isn't as easy as it seemed earlier (and it didn't see exactly "easy" then). As a reviewer, my hope is to clearly explain what the difficulty is and how to move forward — but we're in unfamiliar territory so I don't actually know as much as I'd like to about where to go from here. I tried my best; review comments. --Pi zero (talk) 01:27, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

Fundosa ONCE defeats Servigest Burgos 80-20 in Spain's top wheelchair basketball league‎[edit]

I'd badly underestimated how long the Common Weal article would take. --Pi zero (talk) 15:53, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

User:LauraHale/As Australia's men prepare for FIFA World Cup, few women contributing to articles about Australia's women's team[edit]

Moved to userspace, since it's OR. --Pi zero (talk) 16:45, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Cristiano Ronaldo tops Neymar and Messi on most valuable Wikipedia edits[edit]

Would you like this one userspaced, rather than deleted? --Pi zero (talk) 19:22, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

Interesting!![edit]

Tell me about this "Course Instructor" business-----looks interesting!! --Bddpaux (talk) 23:53, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

JP Morgan article[edit]

It seems that I may've missed that you were already reviewing that article whenever I dropped in the UR template (I always check for one of those first). It's a nice problem for us to have reviewers stepping all over one another! That's something we can deal with. --Bddpaux (talk) 16:34, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Sorry about that. I didn't see the notice at all. There was no click on because of comments on the talk page when I submitted the review. :/ --LauraHale (talk) 16:37, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Exclude in print[edit]

Was just sighting a few interwiki, and noticed Category:Exclude in print. From looking on Wikipedia, this appears 'supposed' to be what I'd expect - a mechanism to exclude certain templates from books &c. generated from wiki content. It says on the enWP page this is broken. Is that out-of-date information, replaced by another mechanism, or, ... ?

If it actually works, I'm sure there's a huge amount of templates we should exclude from print-formatting. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:12, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

New features for course pages[edit]

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Education Program technical update, February 2014[edit]

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Simplified course editing interface

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Wikinews:Sochi Paralympic Games[edit]

Perhaps needlessly pedantic, but shouldn't this have 'Winter' in the pagename?

I note that, unlike the London games, the mainstream are - effectively - pretending there are no Paralympic Winter Games. That seems pretty disgusting, particularly considering a good number of Winter events are more high-risk than the Summer games. --Brian McNeil / talk 14:14, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

There are a number of external links point to the page, so if it moves, the redirect should remain. I put it here originally to make it different name in case of the possibility of going to the 2018 Games exists. And yeah, these games are a lot less high profile than the Summer Games. :/ The UK's prime minister has apparently announced because of the situation in Russia, he will not be attending these. On the plus side, these will be the first ever Paralympic Games in the USA with live television coverage on network television. We'll see what happens. I've just personally set my own bar lower because basically one English language reporter, and the rest of the reporting team is Ukrainian. :/ --LauraHale (talk) 18:11, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Ukrainian Paralympic Committee announces decision to compete at Games so their goal of peace will not be forgotten[edit]

Problem. The lede is too long, and the first sentence gives a highly politically charged message that isn't in the headline and isn't really clear from the notes, and I'm not at all sure is intended. But because it's OR, there's probably nothing I can do to tweak it. :-S  I'm working on figuring that out now. --Pi zero (talk) 13:43, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Planning to cover the Paralympics a year ago, we didn't see this situation coming, did we. --Pi zero (talk) 14:23, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
The problem is the message was highly political. The Russian probably cannot be helped. Does the Ukrainain interwiki link assist at all? The lede can be shortened to they will compete. Just cannot get around how political on some level. It was repeated: This is not about politics. This is about peace and human rights. repeated. The speaker said the athletes were there because if they were not, Ukrainians might send a message for a few hours, but then they would be forgotten. By being there and talking about wanting peace, they were able to do more.--LauraHale (talk) 14:49, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
The political-ness of the message wasn't the problem. We can report neutrally that somebody said something highly political. The difficulty had to do with the dynamics of the lede. Anyway, I set down my reasoning in the review comments. --Pi zero (talk) 15:50, 7 March 2014 (UTC)::::
Writing that lede was one of the hardest things. The guy talked for an hour, and it was the same refrain over and over to a degree. Hard to encapsulate what was said. No problems with changes. --LauraHale (talk) 15:52, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Norway beats Czech Republic in sledge hockey overtime win in first match at Winter Paralympics[edit]

The name of the player who scored in overtime didn't check out. I removed the name and published, as that seemed more practical approach under the circumstances. --Pi zero (talk) 14:39, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

No worries. --LauraHale (talk) 16:19, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

USA sledge hockey team beats Italy in Winter Paralympics opener[edit]

The pdf on scoop is apparently damaged, unreadable. Not sure what I'm gonna do (I figure it's a little after midnight in Sochi); for now I'm moving forward using the on-wiki notes, and plan to see where I am when I've exhausted them. --Pi zero (talk) 20:16, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Published, with the loss of the two paragraphs of direct quotes near the bottom. Review comments. --Pi zero (talk) 22:45, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Wheelchair curling continues at the 2014 Winter Paralympics[edit]

The first pdf, "2014-03-10 Wheelchair curling.pdf", is unreadable/damaged (attachment on "[Scan] 2014-03-10 Wheelchair curling (part 1?)"). --Pi zero (talk) 13:25, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Did second attempt to send improve things? --LauraHale (talk) 13:27, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
I'm waiting for it to download now... --Pi zero (talk) 13:28, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
Yesss. Got it. (What I learned from last time was to check the file(s) sooner rather than later.) --Pi zero (talk) 13:31, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
Good good. The problem with some of these winter sports is it is hard to watch lots of people at once and write commentary on sports where I am only a little bit familiar with this. This one is not particularly great but tried longer. The Russians did the chanting thing, and talking about random stone placement in the middle of one particular end feels like talking about one particular pitch in a baseball game. :/ --LauraHale (talk) 13:33, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Adrianne Wadewitz[edit]

Sad to hear of her death. I agree it's newsworthy, but I think a few more paragraphs would go a very long way to establishing her importance.
I didn't get into verification, but glancing at your notes we'd want links to all the primary sources (such as her enWP userpage and the Facebook post) on the talk page. If the fb post isn't public, of course, we'll need a description of what it says.
An interesting point you made is she was a go-to figure for media quotes. Perhaps add that to the article ("Was often quoted by international news media on the issue") and list some examples on the talk page. Partly would help establish newsworthiness, and partly it just seems an important aspect to her story. BRS (Talk) (Contribs) 12:11, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for your contribution about Adrianne Wadewitz's death. Is it too late to include memorial services in L.A. and Indiana? Her partner has mentioned the dates but did not give too many details. Crtew (talk) 16:19, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

It's been more than 24 hours since publication. One could add a remark on the opinions page. --Pi zero (talk) 17:08, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
Laura, thank you for your article Wikimedian activist Adrianne Wadewitz dies. It's been referenced by multiple places elsewhere on the web as a helpful piece for concerned people to find more information. This is such a tragic loss to her family, friends, academia, and the Wikipedia community. Thanks again, -- Cirt (talk) 23:23, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Youth Olympics Games, Nanjing 2014[edit]

Having been co-opted into this project, would welcome input from your experience in Sochi, and with the London Paralympics.

Got myself a Canon EOS 400D for photos, and would be taking along a couple of mobiles for video footage. Similarly, should have enough kit to do professional-quality audio on interviews/press conferences. Getting the content/media isn't the problem - it's what you learned from London will be most-valuable to me in doing this gig in August. You know — as well as anybody — that I don't have a dramatically high regard for sports journalism; that doesn't mean I'd not try to do it to the best of my ability. Much like London, I'm going to have to define/design technical infrastructure to make life easier for the three of us there. In this case, getting that infrastructure right will probably see Wikimedia Austria (and Germany) strong-arming the WMF into replicating that for any events where contributors get accreditation.

If you'd prefer passing on where you think you (and the rest of us on Wikinews) went wrong by email, I'll keep that in-confidence. --Brian McNeil / talk 11:37, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Find the NOC media person now. Get on their media announcement list for the event. Figure out how much access you will get. Spend a lot of time doing the Wikipedia part first. Identify all the sportspeople you will be covering, and write their biographies now. Learn the rules for any sports you are unfamiliar with that you may cover. Chances are, any interviews will be short ones in a mix zone following the event, and you'll have like 1 to 4 minutes to interview people. (And they may not be willing to agree to that.) Find out the copyright policy now. WM-DE had the opportunity to go to Sochi and chose not to do it because there was no value in sending Wikipedians as WP allows no original reporting, and the images were not able to be uploaded to Commons without violating copyright. Wikinews had too little value, and the WMF told Ukrainians that those metrics did not matter. If you want WMF funding, bring down the total budget to less than €1,000 per person. This includes flights, accomodation and all other costs. Approach people who are involved with WM-HK, because you will be asked why not them. Where is the cost effectiveness in sending people from Europe? --LauraHale (talk) 12:30, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
WMF funding is resolved; and, as youth games, tracking down competitors is going to be far more-challenging than anything else. It's the lessons from London and Sochi I'm interested in, less than how you think I should approach this. --Brian McNeil / talk 13:07, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
I explained the lessons of Sochi and London and Copper Mountain and La Molina and the Sydney Wheelchair basketball. Who are your contacts and in what sport organizations do they belong? What sort of access are they going to facilitate? That's the biggest issue and lesson. Outside that, the next biggest lesson is Wikipedia. Get a competitor list from the organization providing you media access. Start creating articles on English and Simple English Wikipedia now. Create an article for every competitor. Start filling in the blanks for the competition on the Wikipedia articles about the competition. The biggest problem with Sochi was those two things were not done. Be able and prepared to talk informally and casually with sportspeople about their performances and things going on. Use the knowledge learned from writing the Wikipedia article to make interviewing easier. Spend as much of your free time as possible writing these articles, and supplementing it with writing news for Wikinews if you see a new story about them. --LauraHale (talk) 15:01, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Adrianne Wadewitz[edit]

Hello! I've translated the article on Adrianne Wadewitz's death for the italian wikinews as you asked me :-) --Nastoshka (talk) 20:26, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Education Program technical update, April 2014[edit]

Since the last update, development of the editor campaigns project has been continuing, and it's almost at the point that it will be useful to users running edit-a-thons and other non-course outreach events. (If you are planning such an event soon and would like to beta test it for tracking the contributions of newcomers, get it touch.) In the meantime, we've made a few small improvements and bug fixes to the Education Program extension:

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'Debating with a woman is complicated,' says Spanish Partido Popular EU candidate[edit]

I really thought I was going to finish this review before midnight UTC, but it fell down at the tail end of verification. Found nothing in any source about abortion, leaving most of a large paragraph unverified. I didn't feel I could delete that much. So not-ready'd. --Pi zero (talk) 22:38, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

253 by my count!![edit]

This award is presented to Wikinews reporters upon their 100th published news article.

--Bddpaux (talk) 14:59, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Arbcom election 2014[edit]

Reminder (as you're on the current ArbCom). Nominations are open for the 2014 selection. You may nominate yourself, or I'd be pleased to nominate you. --Pi zero (talk) 21:44, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

Being bothered by User:Pi zero[edit]

He is bothering me with rubbish each edit. He is never contributing. He deletes articles comments sites here, although the article is existing. Articles under development are clean up articles. I might not write about RB Leipzig. My started articles have interest and he says that other archived articles are which from amateur clubs, university clubs or something else. He wants to rename my name here and is not rename me. My articles are written after the style such as about other proven football match reports. He is psychic unable to name reasons. Please remove him from the board! He neither productive nor socially competent or educated, for a globally representative on public free sites. --Nikebrand (talk) 21:47, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Typing error?[edit]

In the article ONCE defeats Getafe 86-36 in Spain's top level wheelchair basketball league it reads "Bzrcelona native Jaume Llambi". I believe it is Barcelona... Can you correct it or manage somehow to do so? The article is locked - and seeing such a typing error in a featured article is rather weird. Thanks. --Okino (talk) 11:47, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

Hi, Okino. The usual way to handle this sort of thing is to put an {{editprotected}} request on the article's collaboration page (aka talk page). I'll take a look. --Pi zero (talk) 12:01, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
Done --Pi zero (talk) 12:07, 28 October 2014 (UTC)