User talk:The bellman

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Could you take a look...

Opposition Leader Admits to fundamentalist contacts - Amgine 04:32, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

Heyla!

Am looking at the edit count - I may have miscounted at the time. I would also point out the bad-faith editing practice (no attempt to discuss issue on talk page, removing neutral clear language in favour of obfuscation), but if there are but 3 reverts then I am in error. - Amgine / ^talk 14:24, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

No, I don't accept that edit. It is akin to saying someone is blamed for being a tory voter if they vote tory. - Amgine / ^talk 15:14, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

Hope you will help me if this happens

An anon put this on my talk page today; "== Warning == theres a plot to perman. ban you. see: [[1]]"

Neutralizer 20:29, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

Just realized....

Just realized I never thanked you for welcoming me to wikinews back in 00:22, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC). So thanks. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:07, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

Request for mediation

I've opened a request for disput resolution at Wikinews:Dispute resolution/Users Neutralizer and Amgine, and asked if you would be willing to mediate. - Amgine / ^talk 01:16, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

Wikitravel and Wikipedia

Hi, Robin. My name is Evan Prodromou, and I'm one of the founders of Wikitravel. I just stumbled across a comment you made in Wikinews:Water cooler/policy/Archive/June 2005 about 8 months ago, and I wanted to set something straight. You said, They [Wikitravellers] have been putting Wikipedia stuff on thier site [...] for ages with the boards knowledge (and i would also say non-public aproval).

That's not at all true. We don't copy Wikipedia content to Wikitravel, principally because an encyclopedia article usually makes a crummy travel guide (which is the second reason people don't carry encyclopedias in their luggage). Also, of course, the copyright holders have not given us permission to re-license the work under the cc-by-sa 1.0, so we cannot republish it. We sometimes import dual-licensed images, etc. from the Wikimedia Commons, and on rare occasions Wikitravellers will request that a Wikipedian or other Wikimedia contributor make a work available under a CC license, for example for particularly good photos or maps.

We don't copy Wikipedia articles with impunity. We assume that any text or image from Wikipedia is not available to us unless explicitly stated otherwise. When a well-meaning contributor copies content from Wikipedia, we almost invariably remove the content and replace it with something original and more travel-guide-ish. We also use some upstream public domain sources that are used by Wikipedia (for example, the CIA world factbook), and that may make it seem that the work came from Wikipedia.

If you are aware of some articles or images on Wikitravel that were not dual-licensed and are not published by permission, please let me know, and I'll make sure they're replaced or removed tout de suite. Sorry to bring up a point that was settled long ago, but I didn't want to let a misapprehension about Wikitravel go uncorrected. --wikitravel:User:Evan 19:24, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Rfda

This is a message to inform you that I have added every administrator to the Rfda section on WN:A. This is not personal and I feel as if the community, who did not have the option of voting for or against most of the administrators, should be able to choose who they want to be in charge. I also want to say that I value everyones work on this site and I know that everyone does their best. I hope that none of you will take this personally and I hope that all of us will continue to work together. Jason Safoutin 12:20, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

About Quechua in Wikibooks

Hello. It's user Uaxuctum from Wikibooks (I do not have an account here, sorry). I can't leave you a message there, since you blocked your user page from editing over a year ago. You had asked me long ago about the edits I made to the Quechua module. I haven't entered the Wikibooks site for ages, so sorry for being so late to answer. On the one hand, Quechua (unlike English) has no phonemic diphthongs (the phonetic diphthongs are phonemically merely semivocalic consonants juxtaposed to simple vowels; e.g., /aw/ = vowel /a/ followed by consontant /w/, while the English diphthong /aU/ as in "how" is a single, undecomposable phoneme). That's why they do not belong in a description of Quechua's phonemes (they would belong in a description of Quechua's phonotactics, i.e. syllable structure and such, which would also include the description of consonant clusters). As for the former practice of spelling with five vowels, that's due to the misinterpretation that Spanish speakers tend to make about Quechua's vowel phonology. Quechua has only three vowel phonemes, while Spanish has five. As in other languages with only 3 vowels (such as Arabic and Inuktitut), these feature a wide range of allophonic variation, meaning that phonetically one can actually hear sounds similar to [e] and [o] in Quechua, but that phonemically these are merely contextual and predictable realizations of /i/ and /u/ (basically, when they are next to an uvular consonant such as /q/). But to a Spanish speaker, used to thinking of the sounds [i] and [e] as belonging to what in Spanish are completely different phonemes /i/ and /e/, it is frequently difficult to grasp the idea that in some other language they may be considered as mere variants of "the same sound" (as they are for a native Quechua speaker). That is why in former orthographies devised by the educated elite in Peru (who were native speakers of Spanish), the Spanish distinction of /i/ vs. /e/ and /u/ vs. /o/ was artificially forced into Quechua orthography according to how the contextual allophone of /i/ and /u/ sounded to a Spanish ear. Imagine that English orthography had been devised by Quechua speakers; if so, then English consonant /k/ would be spelled differently in the words "key" and "ski", because even though for a native English speaker it is clear that they have the same /k/ sound, to a Quechua speaker's ear they sound totally different (the former is aspirated like Quechua "kh" and the latter is unaspirated like Quechua "k"), so they would insist in spelling the two allophones of English /k/ differently according to what phoneme the sound would correspond to in Quechua, just like Spanish speakers insisted in spelling the two sounds of Quechua /i/ and of Quechua /u/ differently according to what phoneme the sound would correspond to in Spanish.

Thanks ~The bellman | Smile 04:01, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

My RfA

The bellman, Thank you for your comment on my recent RfA, which passed with a final tally of 6/2/2. This is a great achievement for me - and I cannot express what it means to me to become an administrator. If there is anything I can do to assist you in any way, don't hesitate to contact me! --Skenmy(t•c•w•i) 16:23, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

New Policy has users up in smoke

Hello. I am not sure if you check this page anymore, but I thought you might be interested as to what is going on here at Wikinews: Wikinews:Image use policy/New wikimedia policy action plan. I am outraged as well as others...do you have an opinion? DragonFire1024 09:54, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Request for de-adminship

We are currently in the process of voting to de-admin some admins who have not been active recently, including you. If you wish you could say something at WN:A. Thanks. Bawolff ☺☻ 09:51, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

I voted to oppose your de-admin and was against the whole process. It was not a community effort to do that. I hope you stay and come back to us! :) DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 00:52, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

• You're welcome. --Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 13:18, 4 January 2008 (UTC)