Wikinews:Accreditation requests

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To file a request for credentials or for revocation, please read over the Accreditation policy first. You can also view the accredited users list.

If you would like to receive official Wikinews credentials, please type your username after the slash in the box below, click "request", then follow the instructions. After you have posted, the user's entry will solicit Support/Object votes from Wikinews users for the duration of 7 days for accreditation and 14 for revocation. At the expiration of this time period the user will either be granted accreditation, or the vote removed from this page and archived. In the case of revocation a case may be closed early, but no earlier than 7 days, when there is overwhelming consensus.


Upon successful accreditation

Once accredited, you can get a personal email address on Wikinewsie. Please contact user Brian McNeil about this, your email address will be made up based on the details given when applying - if you have a middle name and you feel having this in the address (or its initial) is important, please say so. You must either provide an existing email address for the password to be sent to, or have enabled email from your en.wikinews account and specify this as the preferred contact method. For further information, contact an active, established, already-accredited user. Requests for an email address must be verifiable - either submit via 'email this user', or signed, and on Brian McNeil's talk page.

In addition to a wikinewsie.org email address, accredited reporters may – at their own expense – obtain a stock of business cards clearly indicating they are an accredited reporter. You can see a sample here. (Note, degraded to a quality that prevents use.)

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Current requests [edit]

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  • Closed as successful. ---Pi zero (talk) 00:11, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Gryllida✎✍ [edit]

Name: Svetlana Tkachenko
Location: Australia
Areas of interest: Natural sciences, ecology, environment, local news.
Reason: During the last round of Paralympic articles, I realised that help with reviews needs access to scoop; this is what prompted me to look into requesting accreditation. I'm chasing access to the internal accredited reporters e-mail medium for reviewing OR articles submissions. I could use the Wikinewsie e-mail for exclusive interviews to increase the rate of responsive interviewees with, as my own practice shows as well, "many attempts to obtain comment or interviews failing because of Hotmail or Gmail addresses being ignored" --wikinewsie.org homepage.
Accomplishments: Recently I am doing a little original reporting, mostly exclusive interviews, as listed and tagged on my user page.

Other than that, an education in the area of sciences (computer science and natural sciences) in a rural university and a few small maintained open-source projects (a mediawiki bot, a Wikinews statistics website, JS patches or add-ons for Mozilla applications, mobile things).

Contact information: Talk page and e-mail.
User ID: 160590
Applied on: 10:40, 25 March 2013 (UTC)


Comments [edit]

  • I'm not being snarky here (I promise, I'm not) but I hear alot of people prattle on about how this bit or access to that bit yada-yada-yada will open up this door, that door or the other door. Now, I can't argue what a person says they experienced first-hand (especially so, if I wasn't there when whatever supposedly happened, happened), but I've ground it out in the dirt getting my OR material. There's rarely a shortage of people who want to talk about something that's newsworthy and a little old-school reporter work will often reveal a nice little stable of folks willing to chat. Big events? OK, that's cool.....I can guess they want to see some kind of credential or whatever, and I made myself up an accredited reporters' badge (after receiving my accreditation here) for just such needs. I suppose that everytime I hear this "argument" from someone, the word SELFISH creeps up in my mind (and, admittedly, that's a bit harsh on my part, I mean.....we're all here because being here brings us some form of gratification, doesn't it?). But, I think of it like this: the news is happening out there. Watch for it. Sniff the air for it. Listen for it. You'll find it. You don't need to be granted some Super-sleuth decoder ring to be a friggin' citizen journalist, man.....just go get the story for cripes sake. People will respond to you via a homing pigeon if they want to talk, and have something worth discussing. Oh, and by the way.....I'll vote 'yes' for this person. --Bddpaux (talk) 19:03, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Votes [edit]

  • Support Good track record of producing quality OR interviews. --LauraHale (talk) 11:03, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Good OR, real commitment to the project. Can't think of a single reason not to support. --Pi zero (talk) 13:00, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Same reasons as Pi zero; xe is a committed contributor. --Brian McNeil / talk 23:31, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Cannot get enough people like this. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:08, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Dedicated contributor. --Patrick M (TUFKAAP) (talk) 00:10, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
  • Strong support, someone give me a shout when email et-al needs issued. --Brian McNeil / talk 18:42, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
  • Support lots of great OR --Cspurrier (talk) 19:34, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
  • Support -- CalF (talk) 22:37, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Raystorm (talk) 10:28, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Sure, I just hope the commitment lasts. --Bddpaux (talk) 19:06, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
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Raystorm (talk) [edit]

Name: María Sefidari
Location: Spain
Areas of interest: Current events, Sports
Reason: I'm covering the IPC Skiing World Championships for Spanish and English Wikinews at the end of February
Accomplishments: I've provided transcriptions and translations for two articles (Teresa Perales, which has been nominated for Featured Article, and Jorge Migueles), assisted LauraHale in covering two Real Madrid games, and I've also written an article on the Pope resigning on Wikinoticias.
Contact information: raystorm82 at gmail dot com
User ID: 956
Applied on: 13:16, 12 February 2013 (UTC)


Comments [edit]

  • Question Have you read through WN:NPOV and WN:OR? --Pi zero (talk) 14:10, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
    • Yes, I did. Will there be a test later? :) Raystorm (talk) 15:05, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
      • Yes, the scariest kind of test: putting it into practice in real situations. :-)  --Pi zero (talk) 15:17, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
  • Comment wikinewsie.org email etc to follow - assuming user has email enabled on account. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:09, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Votes [edit]

  • Support Biased: She is assisting me in covering the IPC event. It would be a useful credential for her to have. She contributed to articles behind the scenes in ways that edits do not show. (See the Chilean one where she did the transcription but did not post and the Teresa Perales article. She also translated things for me on the fly in person at the Real Madrid games and watching television for the Pope story. --LauraHale (talk) 13:23, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
  • Support When I was in the US, I was stuck on the Jorge Migueles interview due the my poor ability to translate a Spanish accent and she was a huge help in getting it done. She would be a great asset for the project with any events that happens within Spain or any other event where translation from Spanish to English is needed. Bidgee (talk) 13:24, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Accreditation is the Wikinews community vouching for the reporter. I think Raystorm takes the project seriously and will do fine in the role. --Pi zero (talk) 15:17, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Don't see any reason to oppose. I'm sure Raystorm will make a good contribution to the project. -- CalF (talk) 23:41, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
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Hawkeye7 (talk) [edit]

Name: Ross Mallett
Location: Canberra, Australia
Areas of interest: Sports, Military, Academia, Australia
Reason: To facilitate ability to cover international sporting events.
Accomplishments: Cannot play piano, but did contribute to the 70+ articles published during the Paralympic period.
Contact information: hawkeye7@gmail.com
User ID: 180828
Applied on: 02:14, 20 October 2012 (UTC)


Comments [edit]

  • I should've closed this and issued email account and so ages ago. However, it's usually to a firstname<dot>lastname<at>wikinewsie.org address.
There is precedent for those details being a pseudonym, but a pseudonym that looks perfectly plausible. --Brian McNeil / talk 16:25, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Votes [edit]

  • Support While basic formatting and verification needs occasional work, has done a lot of good work and accreditation would be useful to reporter. Works really well in team reporting. --LauraHale (talk) 04:29, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
  • Support Great asset to WikiNews, has shown he can do reporting. Giving him accreditation would be ideal as it would allow him to attend events which require accreditation. Bidgee (talk) 05:38, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
  • Support Would help us do more on-the-ground coverage of sporting events. -- CalF (talk) 22:15, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
  • Strong support. Hawkeye put a great deal of work into Paralympics coverage, helping to prove the project can do quality coverage of international sporting events on the ground. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:20, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
  • Support --Sure! What the heck! --Bddpaux (talk) 21:22, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
  • Support --Pi zero (talk) 22:11, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
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  • Closed as unsuccessful. I see absolutely no need to hold this open longer than a week. The user has not made any response to questions in opposing votes, nor a single additional contribution to the project at all. That, in my mind, makes the actual request frivolous, and a waste of the community's time. Personally, I will look unfavourably upon any subsequent application for accreditation without a demonstration of a commitment to contribute, and to contribute original reporting. --Brian McNeil / talk 12:45, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Bayfeed (talk) [edit]

Name: Tim Hohm
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
Areas of interest: breaking news,events,interviews,human interest stories,
Reason: To bring news information from the San Francisco Bay Area using Video, Photography, and Audio with commentary.
Accomplishments: Producer of the RevTim Podcast, media producer, blogger.
Contact information: timhohm@gmail.com,revtim.com,tim@revtim.com
User ID: Bayfeed
Applied on: 20:44, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Comments [edit]

Votes [edit]

  • Oppose. Zero contributions other than this request, thou art not extended that level of trust round these parts. --Brian McNeil / talk 06:15, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
  • Oppose Can you explain why you need accreditation to cover events when you have yet to produce a single article? --LauraHale (talk) 08:24, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
  • Oppose I concur, one should not be granted accreditation until they have produced some quality articles, semonstrating both ability and follow-through. There is no need for accreditation to be a valuable contributor. Accrediatation should be earned. Tadpole256 (talk) 19:38, 17 August 2012 (UTC)


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Successful accreditation request. --Pi zero (talk) 01:43, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Bidgee (talk) [edit]

Name: Robert Myers
Location: Wagga Wagga, Australia
Areas of interest: Historic events, community events, sports, politics
Reason: Most events to photograph and report require media credentials, having accreditation would allow me to better my opportunities to get access and allowing me to document them (the event) for reporting or assisting fellow reporters.
Accomplishments: Published articles I've done,

Photographs I've taken on behalf of User:LauraHale for her Wikinews reporting (list may miss a few).

Below are old articles that I've created but have also been expanded by fellow Wikinews editors.

Contact information: bidgee at me dot com (email), BidgeeWagga (twitter) and Bidgee (irc.freednode.net)
User ID: 22727
Applied on: 14:16, 15 June 2012 (UTC)


Questions and comments [edit]

Votes [edit]

  • Support: Potential COI vote for accreditation... but I've worked with bidgee several times as a writer/photographer pair. It would be helpful for this work if he was accredited. We have used pictures he has specifically taken for Wikinews on Wikinews articles several times. He understands the principles of reporting, has written and article. Acceptance is pretty much based on photography work with a belief he could write if he chose to. --LauraHale (talk) 22:03, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
  • Support Two fully authored articles post-flaggedrevs (most recent of the "old" articles, from February 2010). Apparent respect for the project and its values. Seems a solid candidate. --Pi zero (talk) 22:25, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
  • Support IIRC... when Wikinews first started years back, there was always hop that there would be enough accredited reporters in some areas that they could work in teams... that never happened. Until now!! --Patrick M (TUFKAAP) (talk) 15:51, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
  • stong support; obvious respects, and values, the project. Worked on now-published Original Reporting? Just icing on the cake. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:57, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
  • Support Sure.....appears to've done a big gob of trying real hard! Bddpaux (talk) 20:10, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
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Withdrawn. Diego Grez (talk) 16:52, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Dalia098 (talk) [edit]

Name: dalia is
Location: Wollongong
Areas of interest: social & political events
Reason: My dad and I are avid international news chasers
Accomplishments: I have reported thrice on ongoing news stories within Egypt since the jan 2011 uprising
Contact information: curlgirl_dalia@hotmail.com
User ID: dalia098
Applied on: 07:21, 25 April 2012 (UTC)


  • Please close as withdrawn, per xyr request (to me) on her talk page. Bddpaux (talk) 21:13, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Questions and comments [edit]

  • Comment Although you're evidently enthusiastic and have learned and made a few good contributions (great!), I see no sign of interest in original reporting, which is what accreditation is for. Accreditation would mean the Wikinews community vouches for your conduct as a reporter, e.g. to potential interviewees; we'd be making you a representative of the community in that conduct. Wikinews works on accumulated reputation, as WN:Never assume notes.
questions Have you read WN:OR and WN:AP? (Also of interest, WN:COE.) Are you interested in doing OR? Why do you want accreditation? --Pi zero (talk) 01:49, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
  • Comment Although I'm not changing my vote, I will say that there are certain people (I'm not accusing you of being one of them, but I'm just saying, some people) have this silly fixation that they can't do OR unless they're accredited. That's ridiculous! You can gain comments from all sort of people about BIG EVENTS without a shred of accreditation!! Heck, you can listen to a broadcast on THE RADIO and if documented properly, that's perfectly great OR. Just my two-cents. Bddpaux (talk) 17:50, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Votes [edit]

  • Support Here's what I think: you haven't contributed alot here, but I think you will in the near future....I just have a feeling. So, I say sure! Bddpaux (talk) 00:22, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
  • Wait I'd like to hear your response to the above comments and questions. --Pi zero (talk) 01:49, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
  • Oppose I'd like to see you contributing more before becoming an accredited reporter. Diego Grez (talk) 17:53, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
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Voting lasted four times than it should've. There were no opposes. Diego Grez (talk) 02:01, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

LauraHale (talk) [edit]

Name: Laura Hale
Location: Canberra, Australia
Areas of interest: Sports, social media and women's issues
Reason: Credential would be helpful when talking to some people in the sporting sector in Australia to further establish legitimacy outside Wikipedia.
Accomplishments: Published articles involving original research:

Other accomplishments: Helping set it up so we could have a photographer take pictures of every national team member of the Australian women's water polo team and the Australian women's softball team. These profile pictures were taken by Bidgee. Helped get grant funding for Bidgee to attend the water polo event.

Contact information: purplepopple on Sykpe, ozziesport on twitter, LauraHale on Wikipedia, laura at fanhistory dot com via e-mail, LauraHale on irc.freednode.net, h2oequalswater on AIM
User ID: 179430
Applied on: 23:26, 25 March 2012 (UTC)


  • Support The list of articles speaks for itself. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 00:02, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
  • Support No worries. --Pi zero (talk) 00:21, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
  • Support +1 Sarah (talk) 00:24, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
  • Support Sure thing --RockerballAustralia c 00:37, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
  • SupportSure, what the heck! Although you've only been around a short time, you've cranked out alot of work!! Bddpaux (talk) 19:48, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
  • Support --Brian McNeil / talk 12:21, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
  • weak support I'm just concerned for the fact she's been around for a short period of time, anyways, I can't say anything, I haven't been around for more than half a year! Diego Grez (talk) 22:14, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
  • Support Good work so far. You go girl! —Tom Morris (talk) 18:51, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
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Glamsham (talk) [edit]

Name: nitin sethi
Location: mumbai, india
Areas of interest: bollywood and the business of bollywood including box office collections, reviews, etc
Reason: for the authenticity
Accomplishments: have been the publisher/editor of bollywood's most recognised internet vertical - glamsham.com
Contact information: +91-9867691173
User ID: nitin@glamsham.com
Applied on: 07:17, 14 January 2012 (UTC)


Comments, Questions [edit]

  • Comment Do you intend to actually contribute? All I see is one edit, to ask for credentials. And, you specify "reviews" as an area of interest. Had you read our policies, you know reviews are not permitted. --Brian McNeil / talk 03:56, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
I offered a little friendly coaching about helping 'round the house here first......let's see how xe responds. I'll reserve my vote for a couple more days. .....let's see where this goes. Bddpaux (talk) 18:45, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
Comment Move to close at this late hour. Bddpaux (talk) 19:51, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Votes [edit]

  • Oppose You joined in January, have done one edit (asking for accreditation). This is a wiki, meaning a sense of community is important. You give a little, you take a little....that's how it works here. This totally reeks of some marketing-person-pseudo-tabloid-wannabee just wanting something to get them in the side door at various press events. Give to the project, and maybe ask again in a few months. Bddpaux (talk) 21:38, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
and here we are, two months after xe joined.....no further edits, no grammar patrol, has done no household chores here.....nothing. Move along. Nothing to see here.Bddpaux (talk) 03:25, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
  • Oppose In a lighter response, it'd be a helpful for you to be a more active member of the community before requesting accreditation. Sarah (talk) 23:45, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
  • Oppose Wikinews operates on accumulated reputation; see WN:Never assume. Our reputation as a project is, in turn, behind our accreditation, and we're not going to do that for someone who has no reputation for us to judge. Applicant has shown no interest at all in the project, therefore clearly would not be a reasonable person for us to entrust with our accreditation. --Pi zero (talk) 00:02, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
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This clearly isn't going anywhere. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)  (Contribs) 14:52, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Dwight Burdette (talk) [edit]

Name: Dwight Burdette
Location: Ypsilanti, Michigan
Areas of interest: Photography, Architecture, Newsmakers
Reason: I was refused permission to photograph the address by presidential candidates at a Republican Lincoln Day dinner because I did not have credentials. I had previously photographed candidates Mitt Romney and Herman Cain without credentials. It is not simply, however, only a matter of photographing politicians that I'm requesting accrediation, but also because I would like to expand the sources of my contributions and accreditation would provide me with more access.
Accomplishments: I have contributed around 1,500 photographs through Wikipedia and Wikimedia, all of which actually appear in Wikipedia articles. I have authored around a dozen articles in Wikipedia, including: "Haab's Restaurant", "Women's Huron Valley Correctional Facility", "Cobblestone Farm and Museum", "Highland Cemetery" and "Brighton Airport."
My Wiki photographs have been reused in over 300 web pages, including those of prominent news organizations such as Forbes Magazine, The Detroit News, CNBC, CBC-Vancouver, AnnArbor.com and the Detroit CBS-TV affiliate, which has used my photos on four occasions.
This can be confirmed simply by Googling my name and selecting the Images tab. I have been awarded 3 1/2 Barnstars in Wikipedia and 4 Quality Image Promotions in Wikimedia. I recently began contributing photographs and articles to ArborWiki.
I have taken a college-level journalism class and I'm familiar with journalistic practices. While I have not contributed to Wikinews in the past, this was due to the fact that I spend a lot of time with my Wiki projects as it is and I could not see that Wikinews would add substantially to the exposure of my contributions.
I'm always looking for new outlets for my work and would not rule out contributing to Wikinews in the future. If I were convinced that Wikinews contributors regularly get their contributions reused outside of the Wiki community more often than I have up to now, that would certainly cause me to reconsider where I would make contributions.
I have read the Wikinews Style Guide and found it to be in accord with what I expected it to be. I appreciate the fact that Wiki project photographers may have more in common with Wikinews contributors than other project writers in that we actually have to go out in the world to get our material.
I would think anyone who's gone through the tribulations I have to make my Wiki contributions would be eager to help a colleague. For what it's worth, soon after having registered in Wikipedia under an alias, I came to regret the decision because I wanted my contributions to be absolutely transparent. To this end, as can be easily verified, I soon adopted the practice of signing my edit summaries with my actual name so that there would be no doubt on the origin of my edits as there can be with anonymous contributors, a practice I have continued even after changing my User ID to my actual name.
My original ID by the way, was not particularly opaque. I mention this for the benefit of anyone who might question my commitment to journalistic ethics.
I am also the author of the book Cleveland Homecoming which I self-published online. Because of the number of phtotgraphs it will take about a minute to load: http://www.dburdette.com/Cleveland%20Homecoming/Cleveland%20Homecoming.pdf
Contact information: dwight_burdette@hotmail.com
User ID: 6340970
Applied on: 20:12, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Comments, Questions [edit]

  • Comment Your User ID isn't actually the same as your user name. You'll find the ID on your preferences; for example, mine is 1225. We moved over to using this for reporter ID numbers at some point for simplicity's sake. --Brian McNeil / talk 00:54, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
  • Comment Since you're asking the Wikinews community to vouch for your conduct, evidently your conduct is of central concern to us. Wikinews is heavily oriented toward judging users by their accumulated reputations on the project — which you note you've omitted to accumulate, i.e., thus far you've not contributed here. (We do not follow an assumption-based principle such as AGF, but instead WN:Never assume.)
  • Question From your comments, it sounds as if your use of news credentials would not be limited to photography. You cite photographs you've taken and Wikipedia articles you've written; but news writing is different from photography and from encyclopedic writing (even our concept of NPOV is different than Wikipedia's). What basis would you offer for us to judge your news writing conduct?
  • Try reading my Cleveland Homecoming book as I suggested. It is all written from a point of view.~DDwight Burdette (talk) 23:24, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
  • Question You mention reading our style guide; why mention reading that, but not WN:NPOV, WN:COI, and (obviously) WN:AP? Have you read these, and how do you see them pertaining to accreditation?
--Pi zero (talk) 04:10, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
I'm sorry but I refuse to be treated as a student to whom the master can assign homework assignments to. Your presumption of being in a position to require me to do your bidding in order to get accreditation is arrogant in the extreme. If it is suggested that I read something, I will, as a reasonable person, take that into consideration, but what I will not do is to read it because someone thinks they can compel me to do so.Dwight Burdette (talk) 23:24, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Votes [edit]

Oppose ....and adamantly so. There is little exclusivity here, but HUMILITY is highly valued. You know what you are? A pretty good photographer.....and that's great (no sarcasm). But, you contribute nothing here, then get your feelings hurt because some people try to ease you into the flow of things. Take a look at my path to accreditation....it's filled with bumps, sweat and much spillage of my own blood. Re-consider, have a humble-cookie and come back later.Bddpaux (talk) 22:17, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
Oppose Though you show that you have considerable experience on other Wikimedia projects, you have none here. You do not have any edits to the project besides trying to get accreditation. Frankly, you have no ties here, and I am concerned that you will not use you Wikinews credentials to contribute to Wikinews and instead use them to contribute to other projects. Start writing articles first, even synthesis articles, and then I would reconsider giving you credentials. Cocoaguytalkcontribs‽ 16:51, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

It was explicitly stated somewhere during the application process that it was not only contributions to Wikinews that merited accreditation, but contributions to all Wiki projects. There was no implication that Wikinews contributions had some special favor. Frankly, I'm flabbergasted that there seems to be an attitude that Wikinews is some sort of exclusive club that only current members can belong to. This is so contrary to the Wiki spirit that I'm astonished anyone would have responded as you have. I refuse to be treated as some sort of apprentice who must curry favor before being allowed to practice his trade. Who are you to be making condescending demands of me? Dwight Burdette (talk) 23:13, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
I note the irony of persons who have aliases questioning my integrity. I recognize, nor know of one, journalistic ethic which condones the use of aliases when it is not needed to protect the contributor from retribution; a situation which I'm pretty sure no Wikinews contributor is in any danger of facing . I don't use an alias. I'm not inclined to be lectured to about journalistic ethics by persons who use aliases. Dwight Burdette (talk) 01:16, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
  • Oppose The applicant is clearly hostile toward Wikinews; no need to speculate on whether xyr disregard/misreading of remarks made to xem is cause or effect of the hostility. Xe asks us to use our reputation to back xem, but appears to have no interest in the reputation xe is asking us to stake on xyr conduct. I can readily imagine situations where the community should seriously consider accrediting someone who does not directly contribute to Wikinews; however, this does not resemble such a situation. --Pi zero (talk) 03:03, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
The insinuation that I'm hostile to Wikinews is a deliberate misrepresentation of what I said. I'm not hostile to Wikinews. I'm hostile to persons who are hostile to the Wiki ethos. Of course, I'm at a great disadvantage since I have to respond to persons who hide behind their anonymity while I'm completely transparent.Dwight Burdette (talk) 03:22, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
  • Oppose lacks clue, as evident from this page, and the reaction to some fairly polite and simple comments. Not someone I would trust to represent the project. A shame, as I was quite interested in getting you accreditation. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 12:55, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
Polite statement? My accomplishments and contributiions should have spared me being accused of not being someone who can "represent the project."
  • Oppose There have been preliminary discussions about giving accreditation to photographers. But those discussions haven't been concluded satisfactorily yet. At the moment, Wikinews accreditation is specifically for Wikinewsies who intend to pursue original reporting stories for Wikinews. I do think we should consider extending it to cover photographers, and to consider publishing more photo stories, where the whole story is just, say, 10 or 20 well-selected photos of a news event. Undoubtedly, there are stories where the photograph is the story—consider this Daily Mail story (mostly SFW), where the words can be pretty much omitted! But until there is some consensus within the community to do this, we should hold off. The attitude problem and the carping about anonymous vs. real name is concerning. I edit under my real name, but I don't use this to rebut good-faith, reasonable questions or concerns about my editing by people who choose to not use their real name. —Tom Morris (talk) 14:51, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
I think the issue of using aliases is germane. It appears that Wikinews, unlike any other organization, permits the use of aliases. Any other reputable news organization would eschew this since it compromises credibility.Dwight Burdette (talk) 20:40, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
We've had photo essays. As I recall, the essay was accompanied by text satisfying the usual minimum (three medium-sized paragraphs) and usual standard (lede etc.); it's not much to ask, honestly. Same went, iirc, for an on-the-scene video weather report, a while back, though that raised review issues that bothered me then, and that seem likely to revisit us in spades if what I've heard about upcoming UoW work is true... --Pi zero (talk) 16:02, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
WN:PHOTOESSAY covers a lot of this. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 16:07, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
Interesting. I might want to propose some tweaks to that, but, interesting. I do note all the examples are old; most or all predate me on the project, which by definition means they're ancient :-). (Of course, video reports are a separate puzzle.) --Pi zero (talk) 17:22, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
  • It is obvious that my application is not going to dealt with in an impartial manner. Every response has expressed an attitude that Wikinews is an exclusive club which limits participation. I'm not going to pretend anymore that this process is being done in good faith and will not respond again.Dwight Burdette (talk) 20:40, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
    Sorry, what? You come on here, and ask for accreditation despite no stories and no experience and then whine when people tell you that this is a prerequisite for getting accreditation. Wikinews is not exclusive, but to get accreditation, you have to actually meaningfully participate. Impartial? This request has been treated in exactly the same manner as it would be from anybody who came along, made zero mainspace edits and then requested accreditation. Imagine if someone came along to your home wiki and requested adminship with zero mainspace edits... —Tom Morris (talk) 21:12, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
I wasn't going to respond again, but when I saw yet another instance of a reputable news organization using my work, I thought I should pass it on. The Detroit ABC-TV affiliate just yesterday used one of my photos in an online story as you can see at

http://www.wjla.com/articles/2012/02/recalled-rental-cars-not-getting-necessary-repairs-72874.html As I mentioned, I can cite over 300 reuses of my photos, including numerous uses by reputable news organizations. On the other hand, I have never seen anything online that cited or linked to a Wikinews story. What I saw in Wikinews were rehashes of other news organization's stories. The criticisms I've seen on this page are presumptuous. My work speaks for itself. If it had been explicitly said when I applied that only if I had previously contributed to Wikinews then I would not have applied; but what I saw indicated otherwise and so I applied. Not getting this accreditation will be a minor setback for me. I just thought it might come in handy and so I applied. I don't need to be evaluated anymore by people whose credentials to do so are dubious. By the way, not liking my demeanor should be irrelevant to granting my request, but I see that view is not shared. Dwight Burdette (talk) 20:04, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

  • Strongly oppose and move to close this round of hostilities.
In over a week of discussions, with the critical issue of actual written contributions repeatedly raised, Mr Burdette has shown indifference to the wishes of the community, alongside a wholly misplaced sense of entitlement stemming from mainstream media usage of xyr photographs. To top this off, Mr Burdette demonstrates a wilful lack of knowledge regarding Wikinews content, quote: "What I saw in Wikinews were rehashes of other news organization's stories". I would pointedly refer xe to the current main page where leads 1 through 3 clearly display an Original Reporting template.
The primary purpose of our accreditation programme is to further the production of content for publication on Wikinews. One can only assume from the interactions in this discussion that such would never arise from granting Mr Burdette accreditation, otherwise xe would have at least made some effort towards writing one single article.
To close my remarks: Previous accreditation of primarily-photograph-contributing individuals has always relied upon them "showing willing" to produce written content for Wikinews. Mr Burdette has, in my opinion, seriously blotted his copybook with regards to Wikinews, failed to demonstrate that his request was not simply an attempt to use the project's good name for utterly unrelated work, failed to apply the AGF policy from The Other Place, which xe has thrown at Wikinewsies — or our own parallel AGI policy, in responding to established contributors posing questions regarding xyr accreditation request. Mr Burdette would you waltz into the Detroit ABC-TV affiliate, whose reuse you so-cherish in your above comment about your photographs, and demand issued a press ID from them in such a disagreeable manner? Would you respond to questions regarding such a "demand" in the same arrogant manner? No? Then shame on you for every weaselly-worded piss-poor attempt to make Wikinewsies feel uncomfortable regarding their above votes. You'd do well to learn from Bddpaux (talk · contribs); he's completely earned the right to call you on your lack of humility and, whilst I might word it differently, I agree wholeheartedly with his comments. Lastly, you can "cut the crap" regarding use of pseudonyms; the majority participating in this discussion are accredited reporters, they may use a pseudonym on-wiki, but they have disclosed their names, plain-as-day for all to see, on the credential verification page. I doubt you've even looked at that, let alone read more than a couple of paragraphs of any single policy.
You came here expecting either a project desperate for contributors, or as hostile as your own responses to its contributors have proven. Pick from your three choices: a) Slink off back to Commons, and Wikipedia, and never darken our door again. b) Take on-board the genuine concerns expressed in this discussion and actually make an effort to contribute to Wikinews. Or c) Run crying to the Foundation as others have threatened to do when called on their bullshit. Personally, I think the latter is worth more 'popcorn-munching moments'. --Brian McNeil / talk 12:22, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
I concur.......close away! Bddpaux (talk) 13:33, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
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Wmigda (talk) [edit]

Name: Wojciech Migda
Location: Cracow / Poland
Areas of interest: golf
Reason: photo coverage of golf events
Accomplishments: Yani Tseng captures Women's British Open title for a record fifth major, w:pl:Women's British Open 2009, w:pl:Maria Hjorth, w:pl:LPGA Championship, w:pl:Solheim Cup 1994, w:pl:Solheim Cup 1996, w:pl:LPGA Championship 2009, w:pl:State Farm Classic 2009, w:pl:Jamie Farr Owens Corning Classic 2009, commons:category:2009 Women's British Open, commons:category:2010 Women's British Open, commons:category:2011 Women's British Open.

Ph.D. in organic chemistry @ Jagiellonian University, embedded devices programmer for a living.

Contact information: wojtek[dot]golf/at/interia[dot]pl
User ID: 27076
Applied on: 18:55, 12 August 2011 (UTC)


Comments [edit]

What's the status on this one?? Sure had been lingering on....and on.....and on. Bddpaux (talk) 01:37, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

  • Happy to close it. Got sort-of left behind for a while.

Votes [edit]

  • Support as user has lost a few quality subs over stale/late review. --Brian McNeil / talk 05:31, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
  • Support mainly per Brian's reasoning; also, even bearing NOTWIKIPEDIA in mind, user's work in The Other Place shows a real commitment and helps me make the all-important trust judgement. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Blood Red Sandman (talk • contribs) 17:47, September 10, 2011
  • Support — Gopher65talk 01:01, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
  • Support Seems to do good work on the Polish version. アンパロ Io ti odio! 04:12, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
  • Neutral Although he's had limited contributions he seems more than qualified, and the site can certainly use the support. He seems dedicated and experienced. Likely to be a valuable asset. Tadpole256 (talk) 15:27, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
  • Support -- Great user and has experienced. --Katarighe (talk) 22:39, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
  • Support Not sure why a press credential would be needed for spectator sport events. Phearson (talk) 03:58, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Perhaps press box? Just a thought. --Pi zero (talk) 04:25, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Media credentials allow for a photograph pass (http://www.lpgamediacredentials.com/, http://www.praguegolfmasters.eu/?pg=press_accreditation) Wmigda (talk) 14:55, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Changed to support. Good luck attempting to get a physical card, as to my knowledge we are still securing funding for a card printer. Phearson (talk) 22:44, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
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Revocations [edit]

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