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Millbot-VoA and Millbot-SETimes

These two bots, Millbot-SETimes (talk · contribs) and Millbot-VoA (talk · contribs), do the importing of copyleft news. I've granted them the flood flag for now, but really they should get the full bot flag. I expect this to be uncontroversial, but if there are concerns with these bots, now's the time to raise them. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 11:47, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

votes/comments

  • Support granting both the bot flag. Tempodivalse [talk] 13:48, 2 November 2009 (UTC) Changed to Neutral. See below.
  • Neutral I'm unsure if mass importing is a good thing. but what do i know. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:30, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
  • Comment SGN seems to have blocked both of these bots as "broken". Tempodivalse [talk] 22:38, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
    Reason --ShakataGaNai ^_^ 22:39, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
    Yeah, that's what i suspected. I couldn't figure out why the imported news list was always so long, even after mass deletions. Tempodivalse [talk] 22:40, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
    Verily --ShakataGaNai ^_^ 22:45, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
  • Oppose for now. We need to figure out a better way of dealing with all these articles. Take a quick look at User:Millbot-VoA/chronology/October-2009, there are 459 articles imported. Of that I count 29 blue links. 6% article retention. --ShakataGaNai ^_^ 22:45, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
  • Oppose Pleased to note that there is now some opposition to this apart from me. Since there was little when discussed on WC I had been going to abstain and let this run. No, I don't like mass importation. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 20:29, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
  • Neutral Changed from an initial support. Having copied articles manually from VOA for the last few days after the bot broke down, I've realised that it actually requires less effort than automated importing. When doing it manually, you only create an article that you want to work on, and choose a good title from the start. However, with automated importing, you have to search through long lists of stale articles to find what you want, downstyle the article title, fix the spacing bugs the bot made, etc., not to mention the large effort needed to regularly mass-delete articles that have become stale or are dupes, etc. It's quite uneconomical and inefficient. I'm no longer sure that mass importation is the best approach to copying PD articles, but I won't oppose either. Tempodivalse [talk] 20:41, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
  • Oppose - Far more efficient to simply manually copy and paste if you're going to do it at all. –Juliancolton | Talk 21:50, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Oppose I seem to recall that for one subject which never even made it into mainspace as far as I recall (the update on data on the HIV/AIDS vaccine) the VOABot imported three articles. The very same day I also marked another two or three imported articles as dupes. --Александр Дмитрий (Alexandr Dmitri) (talk) 15:19, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

EmBOTellado (talk · contribs)

I am testing my bot putting interwikis. I am monitoring the editions. I use the pywikipediabot. --Ezarate (talk) 20:16, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

votes/comment

Done Been a week with no objections, bot's flagged at other large wikis, I think this is safe. Tempodivalse [talk] 19:05, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Popular articles bot

Following on from this discussion at the water cooler, I've set up a bot to replace the absent MelancholieBot (talk · contribs). It will update Template:Popular articles once an hour with the top 20 most viewed articles, as in this diff. It is based on User:Bawolff bot with a few modifications. It uses shell scripts and Python (pywikipedia bot framework) and runs on the Wikimedia Toolserver. Source code is available, I plan to clean up the python code a bit but it works just fine. the wub "?!" 22:17, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Votes

Flagged, one week without objections plus we need popular articles back ASAP Tempodivalse [talk] 20:20, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
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  • Despite the low # of votes, I'm inclinded to close and pass since this bot is likely to be so very uncontroversial, as all interwiki bots are. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 14:48, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Mjbmrbot (talk · contribs)

  • Operator: Mjbmr Talk
  • Bot name: User:Mjbmrbot
  • Programming language: python
  • Already has bot flag: Yes, see here
  • Task: Just Interwikis
  • Note: I use interwiki.py script & '-auto' option Mjbmr Talk 19:47, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Comments

  • Looking over the SUL, the bot has collected a good number of edits total over various wikis. Have there been any problems with the bot? Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 20:09, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
    • There was a little problem in my bot, but i solved them, for example Here i used '-force' option to changing interwikis, but nowi just use '-auto' option Mjbmr Talk 20:15, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Votes

  • Oppose for now until you add the {{botblock}} template on the bot's user page. I will unblock the bot for now, but don't run it here, until a bureaucrat says so. Diego Grez return fire 19:51, 20 October 2010 (UTC) Support Seems to be a trusted bot on other wikis. --Diego Grez return fire 20:10, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
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  • The user/operator is unresponsive. Since we were also unresponsive as a community, I did email a while back, but no response. This request appears to be abandoned. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 12:30, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

CarsracBot

Hi, I would like to have a bot flag for user CarsracBot to get my bot running interwiki when needed. It's a global pywikipedia bot. Thanks. --18:40, 14 September 2010 (UTC)~

Comments

As a global bot CarsracBot does not need a local flag, but I like to have a local flag. Because when needed I will do also some other bot actions, but those a rare and only after testing on a very small wiki. --Carsrac (talk) 04:03, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Our global bot policy is purposely very highly restrictive, so local flag would be required for whatever these other bot actions are. Can you inform us what they would be? You don't need local flag for just interwiki, but I appreciate the fact you seek local approval anyway. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 20:34, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Votes

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Bawolff stole the task away... Bawolff ☺☻ 22:56, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

MystBot (t · c · b)

Hi, I get status of bot to update the list of popular pages, why I would use the sources available on the user page of The Wubbot. I've the bot flag on ~30 wikipedia + global bot flag, for interwikis. I've the botflag on the french wikinews where i update the same page (See fr:Modèle:Articles populaires). I've toolserver account where i can run the bot. Myst (talk) 19:09, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Comments

  • Thank you. I would like to see this service return. Have you made any test runs yet? --InfantGorilla (talk) 21:12, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
    I do the same task on french wikinews. Myst (talk) 12:56, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
    • I was talking to Myst on irc, and he said it'd be ok if i did this task. The version of the software i'm using is at User:Bawolff bot (it is entirely a shell script!). I'm giving my bot its flag back because it was previously flagged through this process for this exact task way back (And no one really cares about this process). If anyone thinks thats a horrible abuse of my admin bits/OMG Cabal, feel free to yell at me, and we can work through any objections. Bawolff ☺☻ 21:52, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Votes

  • Support. Looks good. --InfantGorilla (talk) 13:16, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
  • Support. I agree with what is said in the comments and that looks oke to me. --Carsrac (talk) 04:06, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
  • Support, except you need to, uh, register the username MystBot first! —fetch·comms 03:19, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
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Diego Grez Bot

Hi, I would like to get my bot running to welcome users and interwiki when needed. Thanks. --Diego Grez let's talk 15:48, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

Re: It will mainly fix double-redirects and interwikis. Though it can do AWB if requested. --Diego Grez let's talk 00:07, 28 April 2010 (UTC)


Comments

  • A welcoming bot already exists. Griffinofwales (talk) 15:56, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
    I don't see that it works. --Diego Grez let's talk 15:57, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
    It works on all users that create their accounts (automatically or not), but since it only went live in January, Dylan wasn't welcomed. Griffinofwales (talk) 16:00, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
    Well, it will work mainly on interwikis /when really needed/, or welcomes when the bot doesn't works. --Diego Grez let's talk 16:04, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
  • We already have a double redirect fixer. Welcoming people who registered an account years ago is a bad idea imho. (The welcome bot is implemented server-sdie, so it will always work). We have several interwiki bots as well. How do you feel your bots will fulfill tasks not already fulfiled by pre-existing bots? user:Bawolff 00:38, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
    (first bot edits were rollbacked because I ran the wrong script :p) Well, 1) nevermind the welcome thing, as you said, it is run always. 2) I write articles on both Spanish and English Wikipedianews, and may be useful when there are breaking news, or something else. --Diego Grez let's talk 00:41, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
  • It has done some test edits. --Diego Grez let's talk 18:22, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
  • There's already a double-redirect bot and interwikis are usually done manually. Why do we need this bot? --Mikemoral♪♫ 21:05, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Agree, this bot doesn't seem to have any function that's not already taken care of. I'm not sure how easy it is to do article interwikis, considering that article titles are vastly different depending on language. Tempodivalse [talk] 21:33, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
    It is automatic. Generally articles are linked each other on other languages. --Diego Grez return fire 13:59, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Oppose unless there is a clear definition of what function this bot will serve that is not already done by another bot, or by the Wikinews Mediawiki install. All new users are automatically welcomed, a change the developers implemented for us. And, redirects/interwikis are generally handled by one or two existing bots. Ideally I would like to see one super-Wikinews bot to handle all interlanguage links. I'd be happy to write a proper specification for an interlang bot; it would require some of Bawolff's Javascript hackery because I would be very reluctant to give a bot admin access to get at archived pages. --Brian McNeil / talk 17:29, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
    I think it has been doing a good job. The interwiki bots are not doing the job fully, as you can see on the recent contributions of the bot. --Diego Grez return fire 18:26, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Support only for interwiki - I shared Brian's views, but the contribs demonstrate that there is still room for one more. However, I'd much prefer you perhaps worked with someone else to try and create one Super Duper Amazing Interwikibot between you that can hit all the areas the (three? more?) bots do between them. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 10:41, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
    Sure, and the bot already has flag on the French and Tamil Wikinews for interwikis and double redirects. --Diego Grez return fire 02:12, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Okay. Let's clarify this. The bot will do only interwikis, fix double redirects and add {{speedy}} on broken ones, something that has done by fits and starts, without further problems. It has flag in a few other wikis, where it does the same task. Also, and per this thread on the water cooler, it could do AWB whenever it is requested. Thanks in advance, Diego Grez return fire 17:21, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

  • Support As long as it sticks to that, I don't see how it could go wrong. C628 (talk) 22:45, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
  • Support Because I hate fixing double redirects myself. —fetch·comms 21:01, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
  • Closed as sucesful. As a note, don't "do AWB" unless there is concensus for it. Bawolff ☺☻ 22:40, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
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CommonsDelinker

This bot has never been approved. I could actually just block it, therefore, but I don't think we need go that far. I would appreciate it if someone can fill in the details for me; I try and avoid the nitty-gritty of coding bots etc, mainly because I don't understand a word of it. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 13:21, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

  • Operator: Wikimedia Commons
  • botName: CommonsDelinker (talk · contribs)
  • language: I wouldn't know one if it hit me in the face
  • task: Removing images deleted from Commons

Comments

The purpose and operation are explained at meta:User:CommonsDelinker. This has been discussed previously here, see [1], and consensus seemed to be in favour of allowing the bot to continue operating. Whilst the bot has had an interesting history for various reasons, I'm only aware of its editor status being an issue recently and that seems to have been resolved so I'm not sure that we need to have another community vote on this. Are there any new issues or concerns that I'm unaware of? Adambro (talk) 15:35, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, we had this discussion earlier and consensus seemed to be to approve it. I personally don't see anything really wrong with CommonsDelinker, as long as we keep a sharp eye on it for inappropriate image changes (although i'd still prefer something like WN:CommonsTicker which is far less intrusive). Certainly no bot or editor flag. Tempodivalse [talk] 15:38, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
  • Commons Ticker would be better - if it wrote in a language we understood, and people checked what it complained about. With editor removed, Delinker denied admin rights, I'd say it can operate - but not with the bot flag; I want to see exactly what its up to. --Brian McNeil / talk 15:48, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
Ah, I'm missing the old discussion here, mainly because it isn't actually listed amongst the approved bots above. I will do so. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 15:46, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Votes

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"Note, this is based on an old request. Since then mobile has changed a lot, and I'm not sure if the details about this is even true anymore," - we oughta close this down now. Once - if - bawolff has the time to dedicate to redoing this then we can look again. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 19:58, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Wikinews Importer bot

This is attempt Number 2. I'm pasting the old request.

To set up a mobile phone version of wikinews (similar to http://en.wap.wikipedia.org ) We need a version of the main page that has no DPL's or templates. I believe using the wikinews importer bot (its the bot that syndicates our headlines to certain places on wikipedia) to copy out a DPL of latest published to a specific page (probably Main Page/Simple Main Page/mobile, or portal:Mobile). Please see also WN:WC#Wikinews_wap_.28mobile_phone.29_portal, old archived discussion on wc and bugzilla:14755. bot specifics (note: this is off the top of my head. i think its right, but remember its me saying it, so if anything is incorrect its my fault).

Bawolff ☺☻ 20:40, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Are there any statistics for the use of Wikipedia both the normal format and the mobile format, assessed from mobile devices? Adambro (talk) 21:03, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
Not publicly available that i am aware of. I could ask around. Bawolff ☺☻ 21:07, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
What I do know is that according to alexa, of all trafic going to something.wikipedia.org, 52% goes to en.wikipedia.org, less then (most likely much less then) 1% goes to the mobile gateway (based on how little it is advertised, that is not suprising.) Bawolff ☺☻ 21:23, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
But no mobile phones have the Alexa toolbar so less those stats exclude access through mobiles. Anonymous101 (talk) 06:44, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
Good point, so we really have no idea. I would still geuss it is much much less then the normal english wikipedia though. Nonetheless I still think its useful especially considering that it really would take very little effort to maintain (bot does everything, we have to do essentially nothing). Bawolff ☺☻ 05:49, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Umm, I'm going to be away from computers for about a month. If this does achieve concensuss, can someone make sure:

So that we can get the mobile portal working. Thanks. Bawolff ☺☻ 11:29, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Comments

  • Last time Cirt said we should probably change the name of the bot, so we don't confuse it with its wikipedia sibiling

Votes

  • Support Bawolff ☺☻ 20:45, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
  • Support—most news websites have a mobile version. I don't see why Wikinews should miss out on this growing market, and if this bot will help... Dendodge T\C 20:43, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
  • Support — Wikinews should probably have a mobile version of its main page. Gopher65talk 20:45, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
  • Support Sounds good. Tempodivalse [talk] 20:53, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
  • Support Maybe it could just be an rss feed of the last 5 released articles. -Pekayer11 (talk) 04:49, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
  • Support per Dendodge –Juliancolton | Talk 15:40, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
  • Comment I've talked to he is who is god of mobile Wikipedia. I asked about getting a Wikinews mobile and he says "This is definitely on the TODO list!". It seems we do get some love, they're just not allowed to be public about that love for Wikinews. (No one can 'officially' support the red headed step child ^_^ ) --ShakataGaNai ^_^ 16:41, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
  • Support - While I like SGN's news, we can bodge our own version to get something running while we wait. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 14:59, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
  • Support - Good idea! Benny the mascot (talk) 03:26, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
  • Support the idea of a mobile portal, but it must be aware of Flagged Revisions, have Editor stats, possibly even given administrator rights, and the mobile version it "expands" from dynamic page list(s) protected. I would seriously question if this would not be better served with Amgine's MediaWiki extension to produce DPL-esque XML output, and that being reprocessed into a mobile version. You do get sick of things being held together with spit and bailing twine. --Brian McNeil / talk 09:00, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
  • Support Although I don't use mobile web on my tiny little RAZR. I nonetheless back this! --Patrick M (TUFKAAP) (talk) 06:18, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
  • Support From a user's point of view, I could care less as I never use any type of mobile device to view the web. But I know ton's up people do so. Also, iPhone App? Calebrw (talk) 06:30, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
  • A favor Why not? --Diego Grez let's talk 14:41, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
Note, this is based on an old request. Since then mobile has changed a lot, and I'm not sure if the details about this is even true anymore. Bawolff ☺☻ 21:15, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
  • Support From a user's point of view, I could care less as I never use any type of mobile device to view the web. --Carsrac (talk) 04:26, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
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MikemoralBot

--The New Mikemoral ♪♫ 05:30, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Comments

  • Question What types of messages, specifically, would the bot give out? Reminders? Status updates? Tempodivalse [talk] 12:22, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
  • Newsletters, setup the completion categories, reminders, and any other tasks needed to be done for the contest. --The New Mikemoral ♪♫ 23:29, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
  • Do you intend to mark edits minor? –Juliancolton | Talk 20:37, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Votes

  • Support --Don't see why not?    Tris   08:25, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
  • Support, and will close early, shortly before the contest starts, pending no objections; I think we need to have this in place by the time the competition has started. Tempodivalse [talk] 01:00, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
  • Support -- the wub "?!" 11:42, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
  • Support Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 13:40, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
  • Support - It is a trusted user setting up and running AWB in an automated fashion. I'm confident they will check that hidden edits have the desired effect. I would've done this, but Internet Explorer 7 is flaky enough on Linux without running it through AWB. --Brian McNeil / talk 17:00, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
  • Support—we definitely need this. Dendodge T\C 09:21, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
Flagged, closed a few days early, but seeing as the contest starts in ten hours, I want to give Mikemoral enough time to set it up by midnight UTC. Tempodivalse [talk] 13:57, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
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Success, permission granted.

Diego Grez Bot

Diego Grez return fire 23:53, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Comments

Votes

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MikemoralBot

Comments

  • Question I'm essentially in favour of this. What level of monitoring would you do on the bot? Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 18:41, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
    I'll basically be clicking for each edit to make sure it doesn't screw up. --Mikemoral♪♫ 22:37, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
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