Wikinews:Deletion requests/Archives/Deleted Archive 3

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• Articles deleted from June 1, 2005 - July 1, 2005

June 30, 2005

Cuban dancers request USA asylum

• Abandoned, never passed review. - / 30 June 2005 04:40 (UTC)

June 29, 2005

Brief: Chinese Hostages Freed in Iraq

• Redundant, earlier version of Chinese Hostages Freed in Iraq. - / 29 June 2005 10:18 (UTC)

Beijing

• Abandoned, orphaned. Too early? - / 29 June 2005 10:05 (UTC)

AFL: Hawthorn membership down 1800

• Abandoned - / 29 June 2005 09:33 (UTC)

Palestinians mark Israel's creation with protests

• Abandoned, disputed - / 29 June 2005 08:40 (UTC)

Stories from the Field: The First United Nations Documentary Film Festival to open in New York on May 21st

• Abandoned, disputed - / 29 June 2005 08:40 (UTC)

Lecturer in Spanish University fired for defending P2P networks

• Abandoned, disputed - / 29 June 2005 08:40 (UTC)

Irish Indymedia criticises Wikinews

• Abandoned, disputed - / 29 June 2005 08:21 (UTC)

James Colvin Ellott, 67, Dies

• Abandoned, disputed - / 29 June 2005 08:21 (UTC)

June 28, 2005

2004 Kodokan Cup Results (Judo)

• Abandoned, orphaned - / 28 June 2005 23:26 (UTC)

June 27, 2005

US could cut troops in Iraq after elections says American general

Abandoned stub. Dan100 (Talk) 27 June 2005 17:56 (UTC)

Delete reasons stated. - / 29 June 2005 09:58 (UTC)

Baby "Drop Boxes" being proposed in the Czech Republic

• Old, Abandonded, No links to it --Cspurrier 27 June 2005 15:29 (UTC)

Delete reasons stated. --Chiacomo (talk) 27 June 2005 15:31 (UTC)

Delete reasons stated. - / 29 June 2005 09:54 (UTC)

Cases similar to Schiavo's often have very different outcomes

• Old, Abandonded, No links to it --Cspurrier 27 June 2005 15:29 (UTC)

Delete reasons stated. --Chiacomo (talk) 27 June 2005 15:31 (UTC)

Delete reasons stated. - / 29 June 2005 09:56 (UTC)

Article copying

• Redundant, No links to it --Cspurrier 27 June 2005 15:29 (UTC)

Delete reasons stated. --Chiacomo (talk) 27 June 2005 15:31 (UTC)

Delete reasons stated. - / 29 June 2005 09:51 (UTC)

"Meningitis not an epidemic in Delhi": Ramadoss

• Old, Abandonded, No links to it --Cspurrier 27 June 2005 15:29 (UTC)

Delete reasons stated. --Chiacomo (talk) 27 June 2005 15:31 (UTC)

June 26, 2005

Government

when i first saw it, it had one article. I added some stuff, but now I think its more or less goining to have the exact same content as Politics and conflicts and should be deleted. Bawolff 01:41, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Delete. Duplicates P&C. Dan100 (Talk) 09:49, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

KOffice 1.4 released

• Abandonded press release. Dan100 (Talk) 09:57, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

June 22, 2005

Missing Utah boy found

Abandoned, no content Dan100 (Talk) 08:11, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Oppose, there is content, and it was created yesterday. NGerda 15:11, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)

Keep, or at least give it a bit more time than 1 day. Lyellin 15:20, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• Delete reasons stated. - / 01:52, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Jordan demands Israeli withdrawal from West Bank

Abandoned, no content Dan100 (Talk) 08:11, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Oppose, it was created two days ago. NGerda 15:11, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)

• Delete abandoned, sub-stub level content. - / 01:51, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Anti-Syrian coalition expected to win elections in Lebanon

Abandoned, too late now Dan100 (Talk) 08:11, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Oppose', it was created two days ago. NGerda 15:10, Jun 22, 2005 (UTC)

Keep. There is content, give it time. Andrew pmk 20:53, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• Delete reasons stated - / 01:50, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Fiji sugar industry in survival mode

Abandoned, no content Dan100 (Talk) 08:11, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Keep for now. No, it was created two days ago. Andrew pmk 20:53, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• Delete reasons stated - / 01:49, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Fiji government to decide on Reconciliation, Tolerance and Unity Bill

Abandoned, no content Dan100 (Talk) 08:11, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Keep for now. No, it was created two days ago. Andrew pmk 20:53, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• Delete reasons stated - / 01:48, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

June 20, 2005

Debate continues over Patriot Act at House committee meeting

Abandoned. Dan100 (Talk) 14:04, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• Keep. Not abandoned, it is a bit small but it still has content.

Australian hostage Douglas Wood is rescued in Iraq

Abandoned. Dan100 (Talk) 14:04, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

June 19, 2005

FBI-vetted statement now contradicted by FBI

Ignoring the NPOV issues - I really don't think this is news. The FBI did not change its story, the Associated Press changed its story. Why? Because it gathered more information that was relevant to the story and wanted to include it. I don't think this is news. -- RossKoepke 14:54, Jun 19, 2005 (UTC)

Perhaps it is too confusing to be news. Nobody seems to think its important that the first story said the FBI vetted(read and pre-approved) the statement which said the FBI told CardSystems to keep quiet..but if they vetted that statement; how can the FBI now say that statement was wrong?

I am particularly concerned about how source links we use for our stories can be redirected to different versions with different titles and by different authors. Does this happen often? I will bring it up on the water cooler. Note at this search page[[1]] story #2 by Bruno..when you click on it, you are redirected to a different story by different authors. How can we maintain accurate source links for our stories if the links are re-directed to different stories? Paulrevere2005 03:26, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• Delete. AP updated its story. Not news. Dan100 (Talk) 13:17, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. News organizations such as AP (and indeed Wikinews) sometimes get their facts wrong, and after further checking will send out an update to a story. I think if anything, this article simply caught AP in the act of doing low quality reporting. This happens every day with a number of articles, given their publishing volume. -- IlyaHaykinson 14:14, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. ok I'll vote for delete also; but I'd appreciate it if someone would let me know whether its common at mainstream search engines for the links to the older version of stories to redirect readers to the newer versions as is being done in this case? Has anyone seen that before on those search web-sites like yahoo? Paulrevere2005 22:17, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, actually on at least one or two occasions while writing stories for Wikinews I was hit by this problem — I wrote something, and then nobody could verify my facts cause the article changes without notice. At least with Wikinews you can link to older revisions... -- IlyaHaykinson 22:50, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

June 17, 2005

Image:Sawgrass Beach club house.jpg

Belongs on Commons. (Public domain). Andrew pmk 03:13, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Image:Frejus tunnel space.jpg

Duplicated on Commons, author admits that it was a mistake to post it on Wikinews. Andrew pmk 03:13, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Image:House of representatives.jpg

Was claimed to have been picture of U.S. House of Representatives, but it is actually a picture of the Arkansas House of Representatives from [2]. Furthermore, its copyright status is unclear. (Are state government publications copyrighted? If yes, this should be deleted. If no, this should be moved to Wikimedia Commons). Andrew pmk 03:08, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

June 15, 2005

16 American contractors detained for firing upon marines and civilians in Iraq

Event over one week ago. Too old to run now. Dan100 (Talk) 18:09, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• Keep. Good enough to archive. Andrew pmk 20:00, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

It was never listed anywhere though :-( Dan100 (Talk) 13:16, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

June 12, 2005

Video game listings

Abandoned, and not appropriate for Wikinews. Duplicated on w:Wikipedia with category system. Andrew pmk 00:01, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

This seems to me to fit under "No meaningful content or history" wich qualifies it for speedly deletion and has been deleted, all it appears to be is a page with several red links, and the most recent edit was on Jan 8, 2005 no plenty of time has passed for the pages to be created.--Ryan524 09:34, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

EU and China agree on textile pact

Abadoned. Dan100 (Talk) 09:51, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

June 11, 2005

31 travelers from Rwanda die in terrible horrible bus crash

Already have an article on this, POV title. NGerda 20:01, Jun 9, 2005 (UTC)

Oddly, the person who wrote this edited the existing story first :-/ Dan100 (Talk) 20:02, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Very strange; I'm adding it to Odd edits. NGerda 20:07, Jun 9, 2005 (UTC)

Where is the other story about this, if one exists i see no reason why we should wait 3 days, copy any content from this story to the other one that isn't their and delete this one, or move from the other story, depnds on what title we prefer, but i don't think this is a verry good title "...terrible horrible..." (ok we get the point already).--Ryan524 20:10, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I'll attempt to notify the author of this, and I'll be returning home and coming back with full anti-vandal force in less than two hours. NGerda 20:12, Jun 9, 2005 (UTC)

I see 30_travelers_from_Rwanda_die_in_Ugandan_bus_crash wich i think is the same article you were talking about, i say update it to 31 died, and delete this one. Unless any objections form you two i see no reason why we need to wait 3 days if its a duplicate...--Ryan524 20:15, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

After seeing full justification on odd edits, i've decided to delete it because its a duplicate articl with a POV title, any one disagrre, lets us know here, and admin can always undelete it.--Ryan524 20:21, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I undeleted it as whoever wrote deserves to know what happened to it. Dan100 (Talk) 20:55, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

It should stay deleted, its a duplicate article with a POV title, you want to let them know what happened to it, leave a message on their talk page.--Ryan524 17:05, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I already told him about it, and he hasn't responded since I asked him a day ago. NGerda 17:09, Jun 10, 2005 (UTC)

I edited your message to beter explain it, and will be re-deleing the page since that was the only reason it was restored.--Ryan524 17:16, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

The Wikinews:Speedy deletion guidelines explain what can be deleted "on-sight". Everything else has to do three days on here. We have to maintain our intergrity, and not make up rules as we go along. Therefore, I'm re-starting the three day period from now. Dan100 (Talk) 08:52, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I am surpised that does not duplicate articles, i have proposed so though, see Wikinews:Water_cooler/policy#Speedy_Deletion_Policy_Addition.--Ryan524 09:26, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

US teen missing in Aruba feared dead

The article is simply not notable. In 1999, for example, at least 972 people were kidnapped in Columbia alone. I imagine a more recent statistic is similar. However, no Columbian kidnappings have ever made Wikinews to my knowledge. Why should she be different because she's American and can pay a ransom?-- Superm401 22:07, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• Keep - This story is notable, thousands of news sites from around the world are covering it. Notable is not one of the is not one of the criteria for deletion on Wikinews. The lack of news stories about Columbian kidnappings is not a reason to delete this one, it is a reason to create a story about them.. --Cspurrier 22:15, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Comment. By saying it's not notable, I mean not news-worthy, which does qualify it for deletion. Also, whether or not other news sources think it is newsworthy has nothing to do with whether it is. That's just bandwagon fallacy. Superm401 14:56, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• Keep. No reason for deletion; I'm only keeping this listing here so what Cspurrier and I say is visible. If you want moer stories about Columbian kidnappings, write some! Dan100 (Talk) 09:53, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Agreed, keep, see Wikinews:Speedy_deletion_guidelines and Wikinews:Deletion_guidelines doesn't meet any requirements as set fourth on those two pages.--Ryan524 09:37, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Comment. By saying that, you've completely ignored my post above, in which I clearly state that my specific reason for deletion is "Article not newsworthy", which is reason three on the guidelines. If you disagree with my assesment of its newsworthiness, rebut that part of my argument, explaining why you disagree. Don't simply ignore the point. Superm401 21:20, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• Comment - Per Superm401's request for comment on Water cooler: This issue is apparently settled, but most major news outlets found this story worthy of coverage (Google News Search for "Natalee Holloway"); how is Wikinews different? Comments above encourage the creation of articles about kidnappings in Colombia -- why not, if there are verifiable sources? I choose to abstain from voting as my edit count is terribly low... --Chiacomo 06:46, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

June 8, 2005

Google Summer of Code: Google launches open source competition

Abandoned. Someone could've put this on Latest news at the time but I think it's old news now :-( Dan100 (Talk) 22:58, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Agreed, since the 3 days are up i am going to delete it.--Ryan524 04:56, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

June 6, 2005

Bush refuses to increase aid to Africa, saying "it doesn't fit our budgetary process"

Again, just a list of sources with no content. Dan100 (Talk) 18:49, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Proximity to power lines may cause leukemia, say researchers

No attempt to write a story. Dan100 (Talk) 18:48, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

More aid is needed to win fight against AIDS says UN

Just a list of sources. No content. Dan100 (Talk) 18:35, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

‘Trivial Pursuit’ game enjoys years of popularity

Not news. Dan100 (Talk) 18:33, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• I disagree, Keep.--Cspurrier 18:34, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

How is it a news article though? Dan100 (Talk) 18:35, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Not news. Mr. Jones 21:19, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I first thought of this as a "dead donkey", a sentimental "human interest" piece. Actually it's worse than that. It's not about an event of any significance (one could mince words about the PR bash being an "event", but really, it's just not). It's just a puff piece about a coincidence. It just happens to be n years after it came out. Trivial pursuit has been around for years. It's not changed in any significant way. This kind of "anniversary" story should be roundly rejected provided that there are not a significant number of people who were affected by the original event or seriously concerned by its occurence (e.g. the V.E. day celebrations, the fall of the USSR, the jailing of the Birmingham six). In comparison who cared that TP came out? No doubt the manufuacturer and its employees, and perhaps a few fans; probably not even all the people at the PR bash. No one else really. And even they would not feel as strongly about it (I hope) as people concerned by the significant events I mention above. The clue is in the name of the game: "trivial". Mr. Jones 06:34, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I feel that the intentions of the writer are good and that quite a lot of work on it could bring the fact that it is a new way of playing the game to the fore. I therefore don't think it should be deleted. ClareWhite 13:17, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

ClareWhite hits on what the original motivation for writing this story was about, a novel way of playing the game. Also a way that a business interest generated traffic. I wrote it as a puff piece. That's why I left it alone. Delete. -Edbrown05 13:36, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

"a business interest generated traffic" Sorry to be dense, but what are you talking about? Mr. Jones 22:04, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Four Italians die in helicopter crash in Iraq

Abandoned. Dan100 (Talk) 18:27, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

CIA Director Goss Kept Out of Nat'l Sec Council

Just sources, no attempt to write an article. Dan100 (Talk) 18:26, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

June 4, 2005

Amnesty International Leadership Donated Thousands To Kerry

copyvio --Cspurrier 14:46, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

deleted it was redirecting to the article listed below wich was deleted.--Ryan524 17:01, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Washington Times reports that Amnesty International Leadership Donated Four Thousand Dollars To Kerry

also a copyvio --Cspurrier 14:46, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

No material from the AI article is present in the current revision. Mr. Jones 21:16, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

It still had material present from the AI article: "Critics have also claimed that Amnesty International has ...", additional a copyvio tag is not to be removed from the page if any revision of the page is a copyvio. Since the page has been onDR for four days I have deleted it. --Cspurrier 15:14, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Ridiculous. The copyvios should have been removed and the article re-created to remove them from the history. I can do that yet, I suppose, but there's no reason you couldn't have done it in the first place, CS. Mr. Jones 22:07, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

June 2, 2005

First U.S. flight to Vietnam in 30 years

Abandoned. Dan100 (Talk) 20:02, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Indonesian police arrest four suspects wanted over Australian Embassy bombing

Also abandoned. Dan100 (Talk) 20:02, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Profile of Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger

As was this. Dan100 (Talk) 20:02, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Windsor's famous Lancaster bomber to move in spring 2005

Abandoned. Dan100 (Talk) 20:02, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Graner sentenced to 10 years

Denodnaba. Dan100 (Talk) 20:02, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

First U.S. flight to Vietnam in 30 years

Denodnaba osla. Dan100 (Talk) 20:02, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Omnibus Appropriations bill includes many unrelated riders

Can you guess? Dan100 (Talk) 20:02, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

New couples emerge out of Ukranian crisis

Left out to die in the cold, poor wee mite. Dan100 (Talk) 20:02, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Militants attack U.S. consulate in Jeddah

Unloved, forlorn. Dan100 (Talk) 20:02, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Chinese film won Golden Horse Award

Cast to the wind. Dan100 (Talk) 20:02, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Ongoing desert locust infestation threatens African food supply

Have to feel sorry for it really. Dan100 (Talk) 20:02, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

ETA detonates explosives in Madrid

Abandoned. Dan100 (Talk) 20:02, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Friend of asylum seeker accuses DIMIA of harassment

I've interviewed the person who made the original claim, and some other people who are directly involved with the asylum seeker in question. Suffice to say that the whole thing is a confusing mess and we should never speak of it again. - Borofkin 01:50, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Sounds like a good reason to delete to me! Dan100 (Talk) 20:02, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

June 1, 2005

Perpetrators of Iraq mosque attacks identified

The only two sources listed, Al-Basrah and GlobalResearch.ca, are hardly reputable media organizations. Not to mention that a single author wrote both sources and we all know what happens when only a single source is used. Further, simply pasting a large quote as news is inappropriate. If you can find more evidence and sources for this story, then it should be rewritten professionally instead of simply copying and pasting. Otherwise, it should be removed. Sduffy 13:24, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC) (moved from DR talk page by Craig)

Looks like a basket case to me. Delete. 20:04, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Record computer outage at UK government department

Found this with an abdandoned tag, so moving it on to the next stage. Dan100 (Talk) 11:35, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)