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Wikinews wanders the Referendum-year Edinburgh Festival Fringe

Apart from my 'brief distraction' to make a stop-motion Mooovie, this is what I did for this year's Festival Fringe. I had a choice between staying at home and doing this, or going to London for Wikimania (talk about ill-judged timing on their part...). I think this was a far-better use of my time, and believe it significantly improved my photography. This is also the first time I've actively tried to work with the new Media Viewer. Please try clicking on the first image to launch MV, then use the expand arrow to fullscreen it, and browse through the photos (allowing time to re-render the 40MB-odd images to best-suit your screen). I don't think any other project, except perhaps Commons itself, can make better use of the Media Viewer. --Brian McNeil / talk 22:36, 11 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikinews interviews meteorological experts on Cyclone Phalin

With the benefit of hindsight, I thought that this was a much better interview article than some of the others which achieved the benchmark featured article criterion such as Wikinews interviews Dr Thomas Scotto and Dr Steve Hewitt about potential US military intervention in Syria. With the interview of seven experts in the field of meteorology providing comprehensive in-depth responses from an array of different universities with lecturers from around the world. As well as this, I thought that managing to get the news article out there within a matter of days whilst the cyclone was still at landfill adds to its signifcance. I think it meets the three requirements, being formatted correctly, well-written, and covers the news event comprehensively without rambling well. I am also the author of the said interview news article --Computron (talk) 19:39, 20 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Cold as ice: Wikinews interviews Marymegan Daly on unusual new sea anemone

Good work, cool topic. --Pi zero (talk) 17:15, 3 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Brazzaville picks up the pieces after ammo depot explosion

Simply fabulous. A huge amount of effort has been made tracking down and collating a month's worth of information to provide a unique perspective on this disaster.BRS (Talk) (Contribs) 18:32, 21 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • This article was never reviewed. In fact, publishing this article obviously without reviewing it resulted in an administrative de-reviewer action. I recall I'd set aside that afternoon to review it, anticipating it would be a massive job, only to find the article had just been rubber-stamped by a user who'd abandoned en.wn for the fork; we'd generally assumed that users who had the reviewer bit and left for the fork would be mature enough not to abuse the bit here, and that was one of the incidents that led us finally to adopt a privilege expiry policy. I meant to review it after the fact but, predictably, time pressures prevented. The publishing reviewer's edits on en.wn since have, I believe, been limited to derision. --Pi zero (talk) 18:57, 21 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Support as nom BRS (Talk) (Contribs) 18:32, 21 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Cannot support as author. Don't get me wrong: This is still my favorite story that I have ever been involved with on Wikinews! I love this story. I use this as a model in my class. I authored this for the purposes of being a model for how to use video, maps, infographics, interviews and synthesis together as a cohesive product of news. I also think it's an important topic that people NEED to know about. Africa is largely underrepresented in the news. I regret that its publication didn't follow the process that some wanted it to got through at the time, and the editor who published it was, I think, withdrawn. But I still fundamentally believe in its publication and its value, even though its vetting was a brief mini-controversy. Here I am happy to just be proud of this as a personal best. Crtew (talk) 17:14, 27 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • SupportWell, the author's feelings notwithstanding, I'm going to have to go with BRS on this one. I did an extremely quick and lite source-check here-and-there and things checked out for me. Overall, I think it solidly meets our criteria for FA here. --Bddpaux (talk) 14:54, 26 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Wikinews interviews academic Simon Ličen about attitudes towards US Paralympics

Another excellent interview, I found this more interesting and compelling than most interviews with individual athletes could ever be. BRS (Talk) (Contribs) 18:32, 21 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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ONCE defeats Getafe 86-36 in Spain's top level wheelchair basketball league

Very detailed original coverage and plenty of photographs. BRS (Talk) (Contribs) 18:32, 21 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Promoted to FA, based on consensus! --Bddpaux (talk) 21:09, 11 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Glasgow's Common Weal launch; 'Not me first. All of us first'

A good and in-depth report of an underreported event, plenty of original material including photographs. A shame about the video; 'tis life. BRS (Talk) (Contribs) 14:20, 19 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Problem was less with the video, and more with the sound/overdub. Even if I'd managed to clear up my cold quickly-enough, I'd strongly recommend anyone trying something that to have someone help with capturing video. What's going on off-stage is as-important as on-stage. --Brian McNeil / talk 18:12, 19 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikinews interviews specialists on China, Iran, Russia support for al-Assad

Speaks for itself. --Pi zero (talk) 12:27, 30 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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I thought this came out well, the only downside was that Walter Posch didn't give a file photo for himself and that there were not always consistent answers throughout each section. --Computron (talk) 18:35, 30 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikinews interviews Dr. Michael Mazilu on creating world's fastest spinning manmade object

A shameless self-nom as the reporter. Plenty of 'hard' science including, amusingly, a point where we found other press had their facts slightly muddled; more importantly, twice got the interviewee to describe questions as "interesting". Also, note the three free images sourced for Commons (including two which, based on the metadata, appear to have been taken specially for Wikinews). Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 15:59, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Computron political interviews

I'm joint-nomming the three of these; all exemplary interview work with hard analysis of major events. Computron (talk · contribs) has been doing well; xyr latest effort, presently queued for review, dwarfs all these and the one already featured. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 15:45, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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I agree with the first two articles being nominated for Featured article, although I disagree with the third one, I thought the answers provided by Dr. Jim Gill were very far from comprehensive and therefore this is far from the level needed for featured article. --Computron (talk) 22:39, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Maroochydore win 2013 Sunshine Coast Rugby Union Grand Final

The most in depth sporting photo essay I can find - certainly the best I've done. It contains 12 media files in order of their events happenings. --RockerballAustralia c 07:03, 10 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Sam Brownback on running for President, gay rights, the Middle East and religion

You just need to read the first few Q&A in this one; a Republican — whose views I may-well disagree with — but isn't running on the Faux News ticket of we hate everyone else, and will burn the White House down ourselves rather than let any remotely left-leaning politician get anything they believe in. --Brian McNeil / talk 21:48, 9 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Dr. Joseph Merlino on sexuality, insanity, Freud, fetishes and apathy

When you get to "[...] it is possible to be sane and insane all in one day if, for instance, you are gay and fly from the United Kingdom to Saudi Arabia", you will want to read the rest.

It's a Miller interview; don't think we've any of those fail to meet the FA criteria. --Brian McNeil / talk 19:18, 9 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikinews international report: "Anonymous" holds anti-Scientology protests worldwide

This is what Wikinews has the potential to do when you have a small bunch of determined people, albeit scattered to the four corners of the world, out to report the news. --Brian McNeil / talk 19:10, 9 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Support, with the qualification/disclosure that I was a contributor. --Brian McNeil / talk 19:10, 9 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Neutral It's a great photoessay, but the OR notes are pretty much nonexistent. I'm reluctant to outright oppose given the notes were fairly typical for their era in that we would normally just take as read that people's implied presence was sufficient corroboration. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 16:34, 13 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, a most impressive collaborative contribution project. -- Cirt (talk) 19:38, 14 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Neutral I struggled over this one. There really are flaws, as pointed out in the earlier nomination discussion, and as BRS points out here. The observations in favor, in both current and past discussion, are also valid. DragonFire1024's remark in the past discussion resonates: "Probably will be the most OR in one article we will ever have." This represents in some ways an example of the best of what Wikinews can do, yet in other ways it should not be imitated. I am like BRS reluctant to outright oppose, but I can't bring myself to add support either. (I'm put in mind of Strephon from Iolanthe, half human and half fairy: "I'm afraid I should do no good there—you see, down to the waist, I'm a Tory of the most determined description, but my legs are a couple of confounded Radicals, and, on a division, they'd be sure to take me into the wrong lobby. You see they're two to one, which is a strong working majority.") --Pi zero (talk) 20:13, 29 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • SupportOK, I'm going to try VERY, VERY HARD to not judge this based upon my opinion (God, I've fallen out of love with "opinions" of-late!!!). Yes, the way the OR notes were glued together on the talk page could have and should have been tightened up just a wee bit. However, giving a few inches on that, and looking at the colossal amount of photos and other reasonably tight, fairly terse writing that went on, coupled with the real-time coverage of a (nearly) global event, I think it passes policy muster for FA status. --Bddpaux (talk) 20:45, 29 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Wikinews interviews New York bar owner on Santorum cocktail

This isn't exactly the hardest of news, but culture and entertainment articles are not banned from becoming featured. It's an interesting piece about a normal guy who found himself at the centre of media attention for his five minutes of fame, and I think it does a good job of catching that. Also note the images supplied have since found themselves on various language editions of Wikipedia (I put them there around the time this article was published, and there they remain). Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 02:13, 2 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Comment It sure ain't hard news (it's rather... frothy :p). I take Bddpaux's comments on the politics as tongue-in-cheek. The concern, then, is newsworthiness and that's certainly a borderline issue. Given that he got a fair amount of unexpected attention for his cocktail I think it's a nice little local piece; we so often struggle to meet the entertaining part of the mission statement. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 16:18, 13 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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  • A very frothy and somewhat maloderous support as nom Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 02:13, 2 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, and thank you very much to Blood Red Sandman (talk · contribs) about my work on the article, much appreciated, -- Cirt (talk) 04:31, 2 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. The nom just made me laugh, remembering this. A point when a politician's election chances went up the shitter. --Brian McNeil / talk 20:08, 2 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Just reread it. Worthy. --Pi zero (talk) 20:59, 2 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose To speak ill of Dan Savage's drivel here at WN is tantamount to sacrilege, but since the Rainbow Brigade is allowed to agenda-push at every opportunity here, I suppose one (such as m'self) can happily push back, as-it-were. The formatting of this article is perfect, admittedly.....layout-wise, it's beautifult, really. But at the end of the day, we don't need crap like this here. This is literally taking what is little more than a frat house joke and ballooning it up as a humor article (cloaked under the guise of "news"). The article obfuscates its foundation of poor taste with an over-the-top amount of content, which seemingly hypnotizes the reader into believing that, "Well, it must mean something, look at all them words!" This belonged (from the get-go) on a humor blog, NOT HERE. The Village Voice meets their monthly payroll on stuff like this; and I say, let them keep on doing so. WN is NOT a fetishistic endeavor. To indicate my neutrality, I'd feel the same way about an article discussing a menses-inspired Bloody Mary spinoff or the like. Further, I'd be all for a barnstar for formatting, well deserved that'd be. This is/was barely news at the time and its sure not FA material now, for certain. --Bddpaux (talk) 15:24, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Fwiw, speaking of to-be-fair, I didn't at the time, and still don't, consider the politics of Rick Santorum or Dan Savage relevant to assessing the article. --Pi zero (talk) 16:48, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I hope I'm always guilty of noting valid points! Admittedly, the article, technically really is about a guy, his bar, and a drink he came up with. I should and will and do concede that. --Bddpaux (talk) 21:33, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Bddpaux, nobody here is going to judge you on your political views; I enjoy having a wide range of views represented on Wikinews; and, I'd hope we're all smart enough to keep that for less-formal arguments (abuse is somewhere down the corridor) . I'd go out of my way to have that broad-spectrum of people whose differing viewpoints may-well lead to some 'quite robust' debates. It keeps contributors honest, and we can readily drop our 'ideological differences' - to ensure a story is well-covered.
Putting politics aside, for a moment, the "ask" s on the quality of the article, not your reaction to the subject-matter.
Put aside that this may-well mock a politician you respect, or admire, it's the piece of journalistic work we're judging, nothing more. --Brian McNeil / talk 00:59, 6 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
As always, Brian, an excellent point made quite excellently. (and for the record, I dont give a flying-fig about Santorum the politician). --Bddpaux (talk) 14:17, 9 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Pride in London 2013: in pictures

A great photoessay, full of really good pictures (I rather liked the caption "an enthusiastic steward"). There is some precedent for featuring excellent photoessays, and I think this one should join those. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 18:16, 25 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikinews interviews biologist Chris Simon about periodical cicadas

While I don't doubt the selection of the S. mobydick interview as featured is a good choice, I found this piece (also by Gryllida) every bit as compelling and informative. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 20:39, 23 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikinews interviews World Wide Web co-inventor Robert Cailliau

Another great original interview I bumped into recently, this is a fascinating read. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 23:06, 21 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikinews interviews John Wolfe, Democratic Party presidential challenger to Barack Obama

A particularly excellent representative of William Saturn's political interviews. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 16:45, 21 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you for nominating this article. Perhaps it'd be inappropriate to support my own work here, so I just wanted to express my appreciation.--William S. Saturn (talk) 04:33, 30 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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closed as successful --Pi zero (talk) 12:37, 15 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thousands take to streets protesting 'ratbag's Bedroom Tax

This is an article where I have strong opinions on the news reported upon. So, I concentrated on getting lots of images; and, on drawing the accompanying text from mainstream reports rather than let my opinions overly colour the reportage.

I found that challenging, but I think - particularly when you look at the photos - this is an excellent record of "what actually happened". So, I'd say I'm putting this forward as what I'd hope is an "ideal" photoessay for Wikinews. --Brian McNeil / talk 12:24, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Support. Up-front about why I'm proud of this piece of work, and I'm happy to have any sort of "robust" discussion of why Wikinews should do work like this. --Brian McNeil / talk 12:24, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. There are many photos which are of very good quality. I also live in the UK and the rest of the media did not cover this too well and this really gets the message across well through a photo-essay/news article style. --Computron (talk) 15:38, 11 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support A fine piece of work. It does bring up an interesting point. For Category:Photo essays, the principle I (in consultation with others) have tended to follow is that a true photo essay has very little text content, other than photo captions; its text alone typically wouldn't qualify it as a minimal standalone article. Here we have an article whose text content is far above the minimal article threshold — but not within an astronomical unit or so of FA range. So that in supporting this for FA, I'm also acknowledging that the pictures carry most of the weight of the article, despite the nontrivial text. --Pi zero (talk) 16:04, 11 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Per the comments above. Good work. Worthy of additional recognition. --LauraHale (talk) 00:29, 12 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Closed as successful --Pi zero (talk) 12:32, 15 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

North Korea's rising tensions: Wikinews interviews Scott Snyder and Dr Robert Kelly

The article in question being in interview form was written during a period when North Korea was issuing threats of nuclear warfare to the United States and South Korea, two other news articles on Wikinews were written about the ongoing rhetoric and I managed to acquire the expertise of two specialists in this area.

The first specialist, Scott Snyder from the Council on Foreign Relations and secondly, Dr Robert Kelly from Pusan National University in South Korea who specialises in North Korean studies and security and who was, at the same time appearing on news outlets such as Al-Jazeera, BBC World, Sky News and CNN. I think with the latter individual the commentary was quite interesting and some questions asked via Skype as well. The news article gave Wikinews the ability to produce unique coverage from important individuals/specialists which no other news agency had.

It took a lot of hard work, and then to come up with unique questions and transliterate - and subsequent to being published was translated into 11 different languages and used on other language Wikinews's. I asked Pi zero about this and he was unsure because of the lack of photos, but North Korea is seclusive and Wikimedia Commons had no photos. I guess that it meets the other three requirements, being formatted correctly, well-written, and covers the news event comprehensively without rambling well. I am also the author of the said interview news article. --Computron (talk) 21:04, 23 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Support It's taken me a while to settle my mind about this. The pictures are definitely its weakest element, but there are pictures of both interviewees, allowing that one has a publicity shot while the other has captured video segments of interview. And truthfully, I've heard serious discussions of the North Korea situation by experts, that felt not up to the weight class of this. --Pi zero (talk) 16:20, 11 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support I think that this coverage demonstrates one of the major benefits of original reporting. It is a good interview on a topic of international importance. I would love to see more of this kind of reporting from the reporter. It was well done, and I can forgive the picture element. --LauraHale (talk) 00:28, 12 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support We have so little rel informative news coming out about North Korea, this makes for a good, though small, insight into the nation. I wish more of these articles would get more attention. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 23:34, 12 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong support for the production of an intelligent piece that, looked on with hindsight, picked two experts who know what they're talking about, and where the sabre-rattling from North Korea was trying to get them.
I rarely forcus on images, because words frequently hold a more-enduring power. I'd love to see more work in this style, with cleverly-selected experts who may infrequently get their names in the press; but, who offer a valuable perspective which serves to inform debate. --Brian McNeil / talk 22:36, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Closed as successful. —Mikemoral♪♫ 21:32, 23 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wikinews interviews Irene Villa

What can I say, this was a pleasure to write (self-nom) for it was a really interesting conversation with a remarkable woman. I think it meets the criteria for FA. Raystorm (talk) 21:07, 24 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Support As the interviewer. This was the first English language interview Irene Villa had given. The interview covered questions she had not been asked by the traditional Spanish media. The article touched on her politics to a degree but also focused on the sport aspect, which is why the interview done and part of a series of articles about. The only limiting factor is the pictures in that there is only one.

--LauraHale (talk) 21:52, 24 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Wiki loves the European Parliament in Strasbourg

A self-nom, for what was the most-visible outcome from the Parliamentary project. Some serious dramah around risk of losing photos on Commons, and one of our few articles with video content. --Brian McNeil / talk 12:40, 27 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Warhol's photo legacy spread by university exhibits

I love this. Expansive, collaborative, with original text, photos, video, and audio. BRS (Talk) (Contribs) 17:10, 19 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Disability sports OR

With the Olympic, and Paralympic, dusts well and truly settled it seemed appropriate to review the piles of quality material. These stand out to me as the exceptional pieces, the first a detailed piece laden heavily with pictures and the others representing excellent interviews, including lots and lots of audio. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 18:54, 6 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Commenting on this piece, I'd go further than Bddpaul does below. I don't think it meets the criteria; the opening of the written Q&A lacks any 'teeth' at-all; and, whilst that might come across well in audio-form, it doesn't here. --Brian McNeil / talk 14:20, 30 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I can see your point. Are you contemplating a support-for-all-but-one? --Pi zero (talk)
I am thinking about the rest; this one can definitely be taken as an oppose for the moment. Had the intro been 'more polished' — and, taken out of the 'pure interview' format — then it would look far better, but that's too-big a set of changes to make retrospectively. --Brian McNeil / talk 16:26, 30 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Votes

Modified support On consideration of other comments here, I'll adjust my position on the one from support to Neutral. --Pi zero (talk) 19:58, 30 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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