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Tech News: 2014-36[edit]

07:48, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-37[edit]

09:33, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-38[edit]

08:34, 15 September 2014 (UTC)


I've created a userbox, {{User ORCID}} for users who have an ORCID identifier. You can see it in use on my user page. ORCID identifiers disambiguate contributors with similar names, and unify the works of people who have published under different names. Anyone may sign up for one, free, and I encourage you to do so, and to display it using this template. More information on the use of ORCID identifiers by Wikimedia project editors may be found at w:en:WP:ORCID. Andy Mabbett (talk) 18:22, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

  • Andy, I traced through the documentation page you've created here; then, on to the Wikipedia article. Some head-scratching then ensued. I'd assumed ORCID would, at some point, become useful for journalists data-mining; that's not how you're presenting it here. The people on Wikinews I'd canvas on this are Crtew (talk · contribs) and some of these folks; Let's just put that into a use case, how do journalists use ORCID? --Brian McNeil / talk 21:06, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
    • Suppose you write for Wikinews and the Daily Planet, but another Brian McNeil writes for The Chicago Record and the New York Gazette. Using ORCIDs on your respective profiles makes clear which if you is which. But ORCID is not just for journalists; it's for anyone who contributes to research, academic literature, or other publications. Andy Mabbett (talk) 21:19, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-39[edit]

09:04, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

ATTN: account-holders[edit]

Having experienced mail rejection where the 'spamcannibal' list is being used, this notice is to highlight action required to ensure all issued email accounts are secure. The matter has been raised with hosting support, but requires additional measures from all users.

  • Please ensure any machine you read email with is secure; that anti-virus software is up-to-date, and you have run whatever checks you can to ensure no keyloggers or other malicious software is present.
  • ALL Passwords will be regenerated on, or by, the 26th of this month - unless notice is received that you have logged into webmail and reset your password.
  • Should notice not be received that you have changed your password, one will be generated for you and held until you contact me.
  • All forwarding rules which terminate at yahoo, or google/gmail, will (again) be deleted. Where these are recreated, such accounts will be removed from all distribution lists.

All accounts where passwords are generated and held will have quota caps imposed, and be removed from distribution lists when quota is reached.

A copy of this notice will be posted on the miscellaneous section of English Wikinews, and highlighted in the #wikinews IRC channel topic. --Brian McNeil / talk 12:58, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

  • I have, immediately after sending this message, been forced to delete one "forward to" rule due to this resulting in a spam rejection message. The same would be the case for which uses gmail as its back-end. --Brian McNeil / talk 13:04, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-40[edit]

09:44, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

Recognition of Prior Learning[edit]

Some may have noted that – from the end of July this year – I have started study at the University of the Sunshine Coast. I have requested what us known as Recognition of Prior Learning from the university for two units based off of Wikinews articles I have written. I'll keep everyone posted. --RockerballAustralia contribs 09:24, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Still waiting. Granted Monday was a public holiday. --RockerballAustralia contribs 08:29, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
  • Fingers crossed for you on that one, I see no reason why peer-reviewed contributions to Wikinews should not be considered a valid learning experience and be credited. --Brian McNeil / talk 12:25, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
What I submitted for RPL (this and this) was "not at the level required or meet the requirements of the courses requested." (Email at 12:33pm my time, 2:33am UTC)
I didn't receive any feedback from that. So, I'll pitch for feedback here. Thoughts, anyone? --RockerballAustralia contribs 06:27, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-41[edit]

06:10, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Wikinewsie Group[edit]

Anyone seen this? Thoughts?--RockerballAustralia contribs 02:14, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

I heard some pretty dark things about what was going on in the early months of this year. Like, word from On High that the way to get along with the Powers That Be was to throw en.wn under the bus. Which, as I've remarked to Laura on multiple occasions, is a guaranteed way to not end up with a Wikinewsie Group that stands for journalism with integrity; you literally can't establish a precedent for integrity by allowing people with divergent goals from yours to coerce you into repudiating your principles at the outset. The last time I recall we talked with Laura about any of that, brianmc was more diplomatic with her than I was, and BRS did this. There was some serious question whether Laura had any legitimacy for her actions by that point; as best I could tell, she seemed to be simultaneously using her putative role as chair of the interim board of TWG, and claiming she didn't have to consult with the interim board because TWG no longer existed.
I did receive a comment from SJ last month on meta, in defense of the board's position, and I replied, too, with a critique of some of the points claimed, but unsurprisingly didn't hear back again. This was after the superprotect thing hit the fan, in which, essentially, the Foundation treated Wikipedia with a similar level of contempt to the way they've treated Wikinews for many years. (And, gasp, Wikipedia didn't like it.) I don't think the board has any credibility at this point to support a claim that they mean well. --Pi zero (talk) 03:22, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
  • Seen, yes. Thoughts? Well, ... yes, a few. Not many of them bear repeating.
Apparently, sitting back and letting Laura spearhead the push on this allowed them to assume TWG didn't have widespread support from those active here longer-term. That seemed to suit the board quite well; because, they not only declined to recognise TWG (per AffComm recommendation) it allowed them to suggest we set up anyway — do what they imagine we're supposed to be doing — and, maybe get a pat on the head 12 months down the line. Wikinews' independence relies on contributors being independent of the Board's opinions on pretty-much everything. ;) I agreed with Laura that a user group was inappropriate; it smacks of "small geographic coverage", which isn't in-line with the user population here. As and when, it suits I intend to keep working with WM-UK and/or WM-DE.
Whither TWG? Gawd only knows. --Brian McNeil / talk 06:35, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-42[edit]

08:53, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-43[edit]

13:47, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-44[edit]

05:20, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

In A Lot of Ways...[edit]

...this applies to us! But, make sure you read the WHOLE article. --Bddpaux (talk) 19:08, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

It's certainly relevant. Seems like we're neither fish nor fowl; we're trying to provide —without charge and without pay— a service to society that is vanishing as the old economy drops out from under it. --Pi zero (talk) 21:16, 30 October 2014 (UTC)