Wikinews:Water cooler/miscellaneous/archives/2010/March

BBC College of Journalism

This does look pretty interesting - if you've not already stumbled across it.

• http://www.bbc.co.uk/journalism/ethics-and-values/truth-accuracy/

--Brian McNeil / ^talk 19:11, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Brian, this is only available to UK users. Calebrw (talk) 05:37, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

• That's a shame... I may have to set you up with a UK-based proxy ;) --Brian McNeil / ^talk 08:45, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Failblog.org

I have just uploaded a screengrab from this website onto Failblog.org. Can I do this? Can you please also help me with a problem if you can? The problem in question is that I have created a profile on "Can I Haz Cheeseburger?" and I have uploaded the images, but for some reason, I can't see them. Instead I see a small blue box with a white question mark in it. Can anybody please help? --Rayboy8 (my talk) (my contributions) 18:38, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

You can upload the image, as long as its local, and not to commons. I'm not sure what you mean by the second part of your question (link?). Bawolff ☺☻ 01:22, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Actually, I think i just totally misunderstand your question. Bawolff ☺☻ 04:32, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Addition of a 'Subscription' parameter to the {{source}}

Many major news-outlets, such as The Wall Street Journal, New York Post, FT and eventually The New York Times charge fee-based subscriptions. Maybe there should be a parameter which states that the content being linked to is fee-based. Cocoaguy^talk_contribs‽

Perhaps an approach similar to our language tags with a template after the source. {{fr}} . Bawolff ☺☻ 10:25, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Don't we already have a template for this? {{SourceReg}}? Tempodivalse [talk] 21:10, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Or we can separate the small note and simply use (Registration required) as Bawolff mentioned. --Mikemoral♪♫ 22:51, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Articles in limbo

I was looking around and stumbled across Europe's noise exposure - first map and Refinery explosion burning 10% of Puerto Rico's fuel. The former seems to be a self-publish of House1630 (talk · contribs) and the latter an attempted publishing by the same user without the Editor flag. --Mikemoral♪♫ 02:30, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

I removed the 'published' tags accordingly, and nominated both articles for 'speedy deletion' as they are both outdated at this point. PSD27 (talk) 02:46, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Well, I deleted the articles. I don't know how we can find more like these though. --Mikemoral♪♫ 02:52, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Maybe all non-published articles should automatically be placed in the develop category??? Benny the mascot (talk) 03:01, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

But I found these and they were in the "Published" category. That's the problem. Perhaps there could be some bot that searches and tags articles with the {{publish}} and aren't sighted. --Mikemoral♪♫ 03:06, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

That might be a prudent thing to do, because this is becoming a real problem in terms of IPs and new users self-publishing. PSD27 (talk) 03:08, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

The solution to this problem suggested when it came up recently was a DPL; see this thread. --Pi zero (talk) 03:13, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

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I think pywikipedia can check for specific test, but not article sighting. I would not know to even go about that. --Mikemoral♪♫ 03:20, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

That other thread has a DPL in it (invisible only because currently empty) that does check for unsighted. Here's the code:

<dynamicPageList>
addfirstcategorydate=true
namespace=main
category=published
stablepages=exclude
count=10
notcategory=archived
notcategory=AutoArchived
notcategory=brief
</DynamicPageList>

Note the "stablepages=exclude" line. --Pi zero (talk) 03:35, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Oh, I didn't know DPL had a "stablepages" feature. --Mikemoral♪♫ 03:39, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Well, neither did I till that thread. In retrospect, though, it figures, since the main page uses a DPL that excludes unsighted published articles.

I've added this to the Newsroom (as had been suggested in the other thread), although I wonder if I should have put it in a more prominent place. --Pi zero (talk) 03:49, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

There's always WN:AAA. --Mikemoral♪♫ 04:01, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Hm. Now that we're caught up on articles of this kind, new ones can be processed by a non-admin. If EPR fails to sight an article at publication (which sometimes happens), and the problem is noticed within a few hours — which is the point of having the DPL in the Newsroom — then anyone with the edit bit can fix the problem. And if the article wasn't legitimately published, any user at all can replace the {{publish}} tag with some other appropriate tag (even if what's appropriate is {{stale}} or {{delete}}). --Pi zero (talk) 04:31, 24 March 2010 (UTC)