Talk:NASA revises asteroid 2024 YR4 threat, near-zero chance of Earth impact

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This article was initially drafted with the assistance of ChatGPT-4o.

I have verified all factual statements and added hidden, inline citations using {{verify}} where necessary. In accordance with WN:AI, I have ensured that the latest version of the article underwent substantive human editorial oversight. —Michael.C.Wright (^Talk/_Reviewer) 19:30, 25 February 2025 (UTC)

Review of revision 4841362 [Passed]

Revision 4841362 of this article has been reviewed by Gryllida (talk · contribs) and has passed its review at 22:04, 25 February 2025 (UTC). Copyright: Passed Newsworthiness: Passed Verifiability: Passed NPOV: Passed Style: Passed Comments by reviewer: Well written article missing some numerical detail: current probability of hitting Earth, a note what the asteroid orbit is like. I will add this information immediately after publishing and will await for it to be sighted. The reviewed revision should automatically have been edited by removing {{Review}} and adding {{Publish}} at the bottom, and the edit sighted; if this did not happen, it may be done manually by a reviewer.

Revision 4841362 of this article has been reviewed by Gryllida (talk · contribs) and has passed its review at 22:04, 25 February 2025 (UTC). Copyright: Passed Newsworthiness: Passed Verifiability: Passed NPOV: Passed Style: Passed Comments by reviewer: Well written article missing some numerical detail: current probability of hitting Earth, a note what the asteroid orbit is like. I will add this information immediately after publishing and will await for it to be sighted. The reviewed revision should automatically have been edited by removing {{Review}} and adding {{Publish}} at the bottom, and the edit sighted; if this did not happen, it may be done manually by a reviewer.

Changes made

Hi,

• Added image of the asteroid orbit. (To me as a reader it was surprising that asteroid isn't coming from a far away spot and is actually orbiting around the Sun)
• Added numbers of risk to Earth as estimated currently.
• Added mention of Moon risk possibly decreasing in future.
• Added note of asteroid dimensions in 'meters' in addition to 'feet'.
• I've removed {{verify}} in the published version. I'm pleased it is visibility=hidden, this helps a lot. I checked the article HTML, with hidden visibility, looks like no content is added to the html code of the page either. However, then I tried writing "Hello {{Verify|https://someURL.com}} Bye" in page Gryllida without actually creating it; in the preview, the verify template wasn't visible. I don't know if there is some specific stuff that needs to be done to address this.

I didn't approve these changes. If they could be approved, with further edits if needed, in next 23 hours it'd be appreciated. cc Michael.C.Wright.

Regards, -- Gryllida (talk) 22:27, 25 February 2025 (UTC)

However, then I tried writing "Hello {{Verify|https://someURL.com}} Bye" in page Gryllida without actually creating it; in the preview, the verify template wasn't visible. I don't know if there is some specific stuff that needs to be done to address this. To ensure the template is only visible in a draft article, {{verify}} checks for the existence of {{develop}}, {{review}}, or {{tasks}}. If none of those are present, it does not output anything to the page. —Michael.C.Wright (^Talk/_Reviewer) 14:17, 26 February 2025 (UTC)

Added numbers of risk to Earth as estimated currently. I intentionally did not include a probability, as the source articles do not agree on the current risk. None of the listed sources support a 0.0017% probability. Both NY Mag and NASA report it as 0.004%. While The Guardian cites 0.0017%[1], I ultimately did not use that article as a source (it originally was listed). Since NASA reports 0.004%, if we reference a probability, I believe we should use NASA's. However, I personally find such figures of little practical value to most readers. The key takeaway is that NASA has given it the "all-clear." —Michael.C.Wright (^Talk/_Reviewer) 14:41, 26 February 2025 (UTC)

You can cut out parts which you don't like, and approve the rest. Like image of orbit is pretty uncontroversial. ??? Otherwise this information is missing in article. ??? @Michael.C.Wright

Ok thanks for explaining the verify template, i will keep it in mind.

Regarding numbers, this requires attribution, seems possible to include with attribution?? Seems essential detail. 0.004% I believe is obsoleted and is not worth mentioning. Please correct me if I am wrong.

Thanks Gryllida (talk) 11:10, 27 February 2025 (UTC)

As the author of the article, I shouldn't approve any post-publication changes (non-reviewers can't approved/disapprove changes to their articles). For this article, I consider myself a non-reviewer.

I'm not sure why 0.004% would be considered obsoleted and not worth mentioning—all sources were published the same day and NASA is the primary source. If we're reporting NASA's estimate, NASA is the most reliable source.

However, I originally omitted an exact number due to discrepancies between sources, for which I found no explanation. —Michael.C.Wright (^Talk/_Reviewer) 16:06, 27 February 2025 (UTC)

I disagree with this assessment. As an author of the article you may approve post publish edits as they weren't written by you. I am going to open a query about this at water cooler shortly to get feedback. Gryllida (talk) 18:13, 27 February 2025 (UTC)

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Thank you in advance. —Michael.C.Wright (^Talk/_Reviewer) 18:08, 19 June 2025 (UTC)