Talk:Netherlands out of Euro 2016 as van Persie scores own goal against Czech Republic

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Group A details[edit]

There is a table European Championship Qualifying in BBC source, Selecting Group A will show the standings. (talk) 03:58, 14 October 2015 (UTC)


Yes, it is styled like that. (talk) 04:03, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Review of revision 3896035 [Passed][edit]


The date parameter of the {{footballbox}} is removed. Why so? It tells the date on which the match was played. And it wasn't removed in the previous articles. Wasn't it verified? (talk) 13:24, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

It's confusing. Wikinews articles are dated by the date of publication. Hence, the lede says "yesterday". See WN:relative date. The reader already knows when it was played if the lede is up to current standards, so another full-length unidentified date only serves to leave the article with conflict as to which date it went out on. Which other articles? Do they predate current requirements, such as the requirement to specify when the focal event happened when writing the lede? BRS (Talk) (Contribs) 13:32, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
@Blood Red Sandman: For example, the UEFA Super Cup match. Article published on August 15, while match was on August 11. (talk) 13:43, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
Seems very odd, and unnecessary to boot given the identification in the lede. @Pi zero:, I'm curious what your thoughts are (as reviewer on the linked piece). BRS (Talk) (Contribs) 13:54, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
Most precedent on-wiki supports including the date. The quick-summary boxes that RockerballAustralia has used for years and still does, for instance, include the date, e.g. here.
That said, I'm always somewhat uncomfortable and wary about tables; they have a tendency to nudge things toward the encyclopedic. We prefer mostly to put all information into the contiguous article text, with peripheral materials repeating information that's also in the text proper (such as pull-quotes). Sports articles are, it seems, the ones that most practice the use of tables; real efforts are generally taken to keep the table merely supplementary to the text, and if we don't have a carefully-thought-out articulation of that principle somewhere, we should try to compose one. (We probably don't, but it might be buried somewhere.)
All of which reminds me that, in terms of overall project infrastructure, if we want to grow massively (which, I believe, we do) we need ways of handling precedents and such that structurally encourage "good" precedents, structurally tend to damp out "bad" precedents — keeping in mind, news articles are necessarily individually imperfect — and through it all avoid the red-tape tarpit that has snared en.wp. --Pi zero (talk) 14:43, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Title change[edit]


It's more generally known for short as "Euro 2016" than "Euro 16": for example. Bencherlite (talk) 13:55, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Before archiving this'd produce duplicate entries in some feeds. --Pi zero (talk) 14:27, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
Done --Pi zero (talk) 04:14, 8 November 2016 (UTC)


{{editprotected}} please add border to the country flags.
Agastya Chandrakant ⚽️ 🏆 🎾 🎬 🎤 📰 03:37, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

I tried to do this but it didn't work. Further investigation of the markup involved is indicated. --Pi zero (talk) 04:15, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
Not done. Apparently, this is a more complex request than it sounds. No great prejudice against it being brought up again when we work out how, though I'm unsure it's worth the effort. BRS (Talk) (Contribs) 02:25, 20 December 2016 (UTC)