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The headline is incorrectly punctuated and the phrase "Yuriko the princess Mikasa" is unique to our article.

A quick google search indicates a few different ways to refer to the princess:

Princess Yuriko[1]
Princess Yuriko Mikasa[2]
Yuriko, Princess Mikasa[3]

The discrepancy could be due to translation.

If it is part of a title or how royalty is commonly addressed in Japan, commas are needed, as in "Japan's oldest princess, Yuriko, the Princess Mikasa, dies".

Headlines are also down-cased or downstyle capitalization, such as a sentence. Wikinews:Style_guide#Headlines

I can move it within 24 hours of publication, depending on what the author or others suggest. Michael.C.Wright (Talk/Published) 18:28, 20 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

"a few different ways" does not mean this way is incorrect
why/how down capital? i think names, word princess - need to have caps
thank you 🙂 Gryllida (talk) 18:33, 20 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
"a few different ways" does not mean this way is incorrect I'll rephrase it; What is the appropriate formal way to address or refer to a princess of the Imperial House of Japan?
why/how down capital? Why? The only reason I can give is because that is what the style guide states. It gives no reason:

Use downstyle capitalisation — Downstyle capitalisation, also called sentence case, is the preferred style. Only the initial word and proper nouns are capitalized.

How? In the case of our article here, the first instance of the word princess is not part a formal title or a proper noun. It is a common noun[4]; Japan's oldest princess. The word princess describes a type of person.
That is in addition to the additional commas that are needed to make the headline a correct sentence. —Michael.C.Wright (Talk/Published) 21:33, 20 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
The title used, in English, by the Prime Minister is Princess Yuriko of Mikasa[5]. That is authoritative enough for me. I have moved the page. I was hoping the original author would have done that as they are new to en.WN and it would help them learn the ropes. —Michael.C.Wright (Talk/Published) 14:50, 21 November 2024 (UTC)Reply