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Latest comment: 3 months ago by Michael.C.Wright in topic Nearly publishable

Original Reporting notes

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Full text of eventbrite email:

A Message from MoMA PS1:
 
Thank you for registering for the Voluptuous Horror of Karen Black at MoMA PS1.
 
The performance begins promptly at 4 p.m. and runs approximately 45 minutes. 
 
Arrive by  3 p.m. to be sure you are able to experience the performance in its entirety. Due to expected high attendance, we highly encourage attendees to arrive in advance of performance start time. 
 
Upon arrival through our main entrance, check in at the admissions desk using your downloadable tickets or providing your name.
 
For accessibility requests, please respond directly to this email. 
 
We look forward to welcoming you to PS1 on October 11th!

Almost all other content backed by photos in gallery. I was personally at this performance. Tduk (talk) 15:49, 12 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

I also have video of the band being introduced, but this can be corroborated by the other sources I included. Tduk (talk) 17:35, 12 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

Listing GoFundMe as a source

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@Heavy Water, Bddpaux, RockerballAustralia, Lofi Gurl, Gryllida: Pinging you all for additional input. I won’t have much time over the next week to review, so please don’t wait for me to take further action. I’ll try to circle back when I can.Michael.C.Wright (Talk/Reviewer) 14:07, 13 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

I can see that, it can be removed. It was just there to corroborate band member info. I think the other sources cover that pretty well. Tduk (talk) 14:49, 13 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
FYI: Reviewers should not add or remove sources if they wish to remain uninvolved in an article’s development. Doing so disqualifies them from reviewing it. If a source is unnecessary, the author should remove it.
Also, we don’t require multiple sources to verify the same fact. Beyond the focal event (which needs two sources), one reliable source for each factual statement is sufficient. Redundant sourcing is discouraged per WN:Source#Use_the_sources.Michael.C.Wright (Talk/Reviewer) 13:21, 18 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

Language and clean-up

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I've done too much clean up to review this now. Sorry.--Bddpaux (talk) 14:50, 15 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

Thanks, that's good changes you made. I liked the line about security ushering people out - I may have taken photos or video of this if we need a source. Tduk (talk) 22:42, 15 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

Nearly publishable

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@Tduk, The article is nearly ready for publication but needs these changes before it can be published:

  1. I did not use the Frieze or Whitehot sources to verify any content. Per sourcing policy, only sources used in the article should be cited. If no information from them is included, remove them to avoid appearing promotional.
  2. Revise the phrase "attendance was high," as it reads as analysis. Instead, describe observable details. If available, consider adding a photo showing the courtyard and referencing it in the text. For example: "The courtyard appeared crowded, with little space near the stage and some audience members standing on the stairs leading up to it." (Only if supported by observation or images.)
  3. Per the style guide, image captions should be full sentences that help readers, especially those unfamiliar with the band, understand what they’re seeing.

Optional improvements while you’re editing:

  • Consider explaining the meaning of the colors listed after some performers.
  • If photos or scans of a pre-arranged set list exist, including them would strengthen verifiability.

I would have published the article (removing the "attendance was high" statement) if the sourcing issue weren’t present.

I expect to be available for another review sporadically today and probably tomorrow morning (Pacific Time).Michael.C.Wright (Talk/Reviewer) 15:24, 19 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

I think I've done the requested changes - the two photos you asked for (crowd and set list) were already in the article but I've now captioned them clearly. My video recording seems to show a song omission from the pictured setlist, is it best to just mention that in my OR notes? I feel like any conjecture as to why it's missing goes too far over to OR. Tduk (talk) 22:25, 19 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for the changes.
> ...is it best to just mention that in my OR notes?
Yes, that will be helpful to readers. Thank you for the reporting and photos!Michael.C.Wright (Talk/Reviewer) 13:35, 20 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

Review of revision 4889747 [Passed]

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