Talk:US President Trump grants eleven people clemency

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Notes[edit]

--DannyS712 (talk) 02:59, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

Headline[edit]

needs to be written for an international audience. Of what is Trump president? --Pi zero (talk) 05:54, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

Done --DannyS712 (talk) 05:56, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

Focus?[edit]

@DannyS712: Why is this written with headline/lede emphasis on Blagojovich? Several of the sources choose to focus on one or another of the grants-of-clemency, but looking at the body of this article there doesn't seem to be significantly more information about that one than each of the other ten; so, why should the focus be "grants clemency to Blagojevish and, oh-by-the-way, ten other people", rather than "grants clemency to eleven people"? I'm thinking deeply on whether that's non-neutral, while working my way slowly through the sources, hoping maybe by the time I've done the whole source-check I'll have more of a clue about how to handle the emphasis-on-Blagojevich thing. Thoughts? --Pi zero (talk) 00:27, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

Because I read about Blagojevich, started writing about him, and then read about the others. I would suggest "US President Trump grants eleven people clemency" --DannyS712 (talk) 00:29, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
@DannyS712: It would also require a change to the lede. Are you willing to address that in-real-time? If so, either I could pull it out from under review and you could do it, or I suppose you could simply say here what you have in mind and I could deploy it. --Pi zero (talk) 01:03, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
Yes, I can. I'm also on IRC right now --DannyS712 (talk) 01:04, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

Question about distance[edit]

@Pi zero: in https://en.wikinews.org/w/index.php?diff=4547395&oldid=4547394 you wrote "shorter, distance". Since the official name is "making false statements", I wanted to include that. What source where you distancing from? I got it from https://www.justice.gov/pardon/pardons-granted-president-donald-trump (which says false statements, and doesn't mention perjury) which is public domain. --DannyS712 (talk) 02:06, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

@DannyS712: So, was it perjury? My edit was pre-source-check. --Pi zero (talk) 02:35, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
Yes (perjury = making false statements, common knowledge / I can find it in one of the sources) but I wanted to include the official name too --DannyS712 (talk) 02:42, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

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