Talk:Ugandan court refuses bail to opposition politician Kizza Besigye

Stale

Wycliffe Muia. How a Ugandan opposition leader disappeared in Kenya and ended up in military court — BBC News Online, December 2, 2024 @Dsuke1998AEOS BigKrow (talk) 00:36, 12 August 2025 (UTC)

Hi User:BigKrow. I'll not remove the tag again to avoid edit-warring, but this article is not stale because the focal event occurred on 8 Aug, regardless of the supporting details being sourced to a December 2024 article. I would suggest you remove that tag as I'm still working on it. Dsuke1998AEOS (talk) 00:53, 12 August 2025 (UTC)

Talk to @Michael.C.Wright, @Gryllida BigKrow (talk) 01:07, 12 August 2025 (UTC)

@Dsuke1998AEOS BigKrow (talk) 01:07, 12 August 2025 (UTC)

In addition, I'm going to expand the article with this source, which may (or may not) push the staleness date into 17 August. Dsuke1998AEOS (talk) 01:15, 12 August 2025 (UTC)

Speedy delete tag can be removed. Staleness is not a reason for deletion. Being abandoned is and that requires no active editing for a few days, which is not the case here. (There is another reason for speedy deletion, it being not news at all. I do not think this applies here.) I am not removing it as I may run into an edit conflict with an author who is actively expanding or rewriting the content. Cc @BigKrow and Cc @Dsuke1998AEOS (To BigKrow: if you think this is old news, please re-iterate your argument without posting speedy deletion, then I can have a look.) Regards, -- Gryllida 03:02, 12 August 2025 (UTC)

@BigKrow: Sorry for reverting you again, but the BBC article from December 2024 is necessary for sourcing the background paragraphs (which are the last four), otherwise the article would have an incomplete pyramid structure. If there is any fragment of policy that explicitly disallows the use of old sources in background paragraphs, I'm obviously willing to change my opinion and reframe it accordingly. Dsuke1998AEOS (talk) 21:00, 12 August 2025 (UTC)

Article issues

I’ve corrected several attribution and factual issues already, including misattributed quotes, unsupported word choices, and subtle changes in meaning introduced through paraphrasing. Please see the edit history for specific examples.

I’ve run out of time to continue at the moment, but there are additional concerns that still need to be addressed. For instance, the paragraph beginning “Arriving in Nairobi on November 16, 2024…” is awkward in tone and structure, and shifts abruptly from legal proceedings into backstory. It also implies intent (“originally planned to attend…”) without attribution. It is supported but must be attributed for WN:NPOV, otherwise it represents speculation in wikivoice.

I recommend reviewing all remaining statements and assertions from that point to the end of the article to ensure every quote, paraphrase, and word choice is accurate, sourced, and properly attributed. My earlier edits included clarifying what was said by a source versus what was the source’s own interpretation (e.g., the Monitor's paraphrasing of Walubiri), and removing conflations such as fairness vs. justice.

If I have not marked the article as {{under review}}, another reviewer is welcome to step in and conduct a full review.Michael.C.Wright (^Talk/_Reviewer) 17:51, 14 August 2025 (UTC)

@Michael.C.Wright: While you were reviewing the article, I had noticed one small error about the year Museveni assumed office, and two unclear sentences about the items in the room and Byanyima's main claim of fame, which I soon corrected in this edit. Regarding your concerns, I think I have addressed most of them in my last edit, except the part about the "abrupt shifts", which I honestly don't know how to resolve without breaking the pyramid structure. Dsuke1998AEOS (talk) 19:08, 14 August 2025 (UTC)

Review of revision 4874018 [Passed]

Revision 4874018 of this article has been reviewed by Michael.C.Wright (talk · contribs) and has passed its review at 16:30, 15 August 2025 (UTC). Copyright: Passed Newsworthiness: Passed Verifiability: Passed NPOV: Passed Style: Passed Comments by reviewer: As part of the review process, I corrected misattributions, clarified paraphrased content, ensured proper sourcing, reordered content for inverted pyramid structure, and made minor style and markup fixes for clarity and consistency. See the edit history for full details. Contributors are strongly encouraged to scrutinize their articles for misattribution and inadvertent inaccuracies; we must be precise when repeating who said what, and avoid the Telephone game where accuracy is degraded through subtle retellings. I understand I may have pushed the limits in terms of both involvement and freshness. That said, this is a well-sourced, high-quality article with a broad and balanced summary of events. At this stage, we also need to get points on the board in terms of publication. The reviewed revision should automatically have been edited by removing {{Review}} and adding {{Publish}} at the bottom, and the edit sighted; if this did not happen, it may be done manually by a reviewer.

Revision 4874018 of this article has been reviewed by Michael.C.Wright (talk · contribs) and has passed its review at 16:30, 15 August 2025 (UTC). Copyright: Passed Newsworthiness: Passed Verifiability: Passed NPOV: Passed Style: Passed Comments by reviewer: As part of the review process, I corrected misattributions, clarified paraphrased content, ensured proper sourcing, reordered content for inverted pyramid structure, and made minor style and markup fixes for clarity and consistency. See the edit history for full details. Contributors are strongly encouraged to scrutinize their articles for misattribution and inadvertent inaccuracies; we must be precise when repeating who said what, and avoid the Telephone game where accuracy is degraded through subtle retellings. I understand I may have pushed the limits in terms of both involvement and freshness. That said, this is a well-sourced, high-quality article with a broad and balanced summary of events. At this stage, we also need to get points on the board in terms of publication. The reviewed revision should automatically have been edited by removing {{Review}} and adding {{Publish}} at the bottom, and the edit sighted; if this did not happen, it may be done manually by a reviewer.

@Michael.C.Wright: Thank you for reviewing the article and creating its Wikidata item. I sometimes struggle with the proper balance between adherence to WN:Plagiarism and source integrity. By Wednesday (before you announced your review) I was largely convinced that my article wouldn't be reviewed in time and had moved on without checking the content and sources for a third time. That was a wrong guess. Dsuke1998AEOS (talk) 01:16, 16 August 2025 (UTC)