International Committee of the Red Cross condemns Gaza blockade

And if you ignore the facts its easy to side with the protesters, such as omitting knives from your list of weapons that they had to make them seem less threatening, just an obvious deception on your part. What about the fact that a few soldiers were kidnapped, and one thrown to a lower deck? The people on board those ships, at least a portion of them, were planning to kill the Israeli soldiers from the start. They attempted to overwhelm the IDF, and the IDF responded by using lethal force, if that's not how you see that one scenario you have your facts wrong.

and here's a disproportionate number for you: SIX MILLION, that's how many Jews were killed last time they were persecuted and nobody gave a shit. If you are going to blame Israel for defending themselves against those same anti-semitic ideologies of the past being used Israel's enemies now, then you clearly have some sort of deep-seated anti-semitism yourself. The worst part is, you are thinking to yourself "Yeah anyone can pull the holocaust card." That's right, I am. We made a promise, never again will the Jewish people be persecuted and murdered for being Jewish. If we are willing to fight tooth and nail with these degenerates, and if the local populations support them and refuse to help us weed them out, then yes, innocent people are going to get killed in the crossfire. Everyone in the world, including the UN, is blaming Israel for the action of defending themselves. I see this all as an excuse for people to just express their own latent anti-semitism, and I won't stand for it.

Yeah sure, anyone who say that even Israel can do wrongs at times is a nazi in disguise. I can't believe that people that on one hand rightly condemn Hamas and similar organization of hate for their actions and their ideology on the other write that "their side" has the right to kill innocents and bystanders. You wonder why "Everyone in the world, including the UN, is blaming Israel"? That's because some parts of the Israel society reason like you, and it's tragically similar to how terrorists think.

Don't put words in my mouth. I never said we have a right to kill civilians. I did however say that innocent people will get killed in the crossfire if they continue to support the actions of terrorists and radicals, because that's how war works, its a sad reality and there are alternatives, but as for now, they are making the choice to side with people openly hostile to Israel, instead of assisting Israel peacefully in the removal of those combatants. The IDF doesn't target civilians, Hamas cannot say the same.

So all palestinians are collectively guilty by association and they can blame only themself if they get killed. Good luck convincing the rest of the world. And don't get me wrong, the palestinians wrongs are a mile long but saying they're the only one responsible for this mess while Israel would just love to live in peace and it's completely innocent is really naive or just plain badfaith.

I shouldn't have to repeat myself, but don't put words in my mouth, that's just immature. You take what I write, and then pretend to be quoting me with an extreme viewpoint. I said innocent people will get killed in the crossfire if they are supporting hostile combatants. I did not say "all Palestinians" at any point in my post. I do believe however that a good potion of them are not taking the necessary steps to prevent this violence. Israel is a state that has learned to combat violence with greater violence, and collateral damage is a sad fact of war.

People are so quick to ignore history and jump on the bandwagon when the world starts to criticize Israel. It sure sounds convincing to call the blockade collective punishment, but it serves a specific purpose, to prevent more weapons from entering Gaza. The decrease in rocket attacks clearly demonstrates its effectiveness (btw there are 28 deaths attributed to rocket attacks, the above statistic of 10 is just an out-of-the-ass number). An inconvenient side-effect is that much of the unregulated supply routes for other goods have also been blocked. Israel is taking the extreme action, but only because militant groups were exploiting the lack of regulation before.

It was not long ago that Israeli's were living in the west bank and gaza, but it was too dangerous, and we had to pull out. That is the true cause of all of this, the fact that there is a violent group of people living in these areas, partially supported by the civilian population. If those people were instead working to remove these violent people, then this whole problem would be over much faster. I cannot imagine any response that Israel could use to have the same effect. Lifting the blockade would allow needed supplies into Gaza, but at the same time, it is an absolute certainty that weapons and possibly more militants will also exploit this to make the area more dangerous once again, and there will be another thing like Operation Cast Lead to stop the problem.

Please ignore the facts some more and then try to quote me, but instead just voice an extreme viewpoint and attribute it to me. It only strengthens my point, that people are willing to ignore facts and history when it is convenient to the majority opinion.

The problem is that responding to violence with even greater violence is what is isolating Israel from the rest of the world. I fear for the future of Israel because the current leadership seems to not be able to do anything else than responding to violence with even greater violence and it doesn't seem to have a single idea on how to make the peace any nearer. And about facts: there are 300000 colonist living in the west bank and they represent one of the greatest hurdle Israel will have to surpass for getting peace. You can blame the palestinians for the evacuation of 7000-8000 settlers from gaza but the point is that those people shouldn't have been allowed to settle in the occupied areas. I think that while the six days war was one of Israel greatest success it's aftermath was screwed up. Instead of keeping the occupied territories just under military control and using them has bargain chip for recognition and peace accord (sinai style) Israel has let colonies grow to a point where it's pratically impossible to dismantle them. And this send the worst possible message to Palestinians. You say that palestinians could do a lot to stifle the most extreme organizations but what for? To their eyes Israel is still slowly evicting them and taking a small piece of land after another no matter if they're peaceful or aggressive. If they aren't shown any alternative to this how you can hope the situation will change? And while you can personally not believe that all palestinians are guilty a lot of people in power behave has if they are.

@ 216.165.55.18,,another point of view, can you imadgine when we witnessed the Israelies (not jews) slaughter burning babies with incendury bombs how we felt towards the Israelies? call yourselves interlectuals? you might be quiet elequant here but where it matters (infront of the rest of the world)you are nothing but filth, all you seemed to learn in history is what hitler did to your people and multiply the suffering of others many times over.

things like this flotilla and many more "incidents" prove you are less than vermin. you say "anti-sematism" no (and no other race has a word for hating its own race, strange isint it? only the poor downtrodden israelie uses it, i wonder why?) dont involve ALL the jews in your attrocitities, the orthadox jews dont want to get involved in your carnage but are made to suffer for what you do. you are hated more and more in the world this is israels legacey, you braught it on your self, there are plenty whom would mediate, i love the & jew hate the israelie. (F.Y.I. i am white uk citizen natural born here 48 years old.)