Wrong use of term "rebel"

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Just because the rebels don't look like they'll win doesn't mean they won't. The media calling them rebels constitutes bias IMHO.

Kayau (talk · contribs)09:52, 1 April 2011

I'm not sure why 'rebel' implies they will lose. They are rebelling against the status quo of the last ~40 years. That makes them rebels.

Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs)12:22, 1 April 2011

It just sounds that way. People who lose are called 'rebels', while those who win are called 'revolutionaries'. You can't call Washington a rebel.

Kayau (talk · contribs)03:52, 3 April 2011

Why not? He was, after all.

Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs)13:46, 3 April 2011

Because they just don't... :P There isn't a reason. :)

Kayau (talk · contribs)15:51, 3 April 2011

Ah, but that's kind of my point. We aren't 'them'.

Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs)15:56, 3 April 2011

But since it's the way it is, rebels are associated with losers. HK sources mainly use 'opposition' instead of 'rebels'.

Kayau (talk · contribs)10:28, 4 April 2011

"I'm not sure why 'rebel' implies they will lose. They are rebelling against the status quo of the last ~40 years. That makes them rebels."

Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs)16:45, 4 April 2011

But 'rebels', in common usage, is used for those who lose. This implication is unrelated to the definition of the word itself.

Kayau (talk · contribs)02:48, 5 April 2011

I dispute that. Your examples, so far, have been in the past tense. The news is written in the present tense.

Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs)06:26, 5 April 2011

Maybe, I guess.

Kayau (talk · contribs)11:42, 5 April 2011

A Rebel in my opinion is someone who rejects a generally accepted thing, protocol, principle etc, but the Lybian "rebels" are rejecting dictatorism. Just my opinion, we could go look in the Oxford dictionary for exact definition of the term "rebel". Nolween (talk) 11:07, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

Nolween (talk)11:07, 19 April 2011