User talk:Ashlux

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Add vertical whitespace for consistency[edit]

In Wikinews:Water_cooler/assistance#Slight_vertical_whitespace_difference, I am puzzling over why the date template sometimes displays 1 line spacing between the date and a story, and sometimes 1 1/2 lines. Since most stories display a 1 1/2 line spacing, I imagine that's the way it should be.

I know there's a lot to remember, but when you create a story, begin the story copy after two new lines…

{{date|June 11, 2006}}
The story copy here…

instead of a single space…

{{date|June 11, 2006}} The story copy here…

so that the vertical spacing is consistent from story to story. The only time this doesn't seem to work is when the story copy begins with a link, and there's some work-around that Bawolff describes for that case.

And remember, don't take my word for anything - look around and see how others do things. I'm relatively new here. Karen 00:14, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Oh, and thanks for all the news you've contributed! Karen 00:17, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I notice the whole spacing thing your last edits to Anti-Tubby Smith ad rejected by University of Kentucky student paper. I was just telling Amgine on #wikinews-en that my goal is to finally write an article that you do not need to edit. =) Ashlux 00:21, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
Thank you very much for the note and the fix to the {{Date}} template! I re-protected it thusly, "15:24, 16 June 2006 Karen protected "Template:Date" (Returned to higher protection level per WN:PP "Protecting high visibility pages" [edit=sysop:move=sysop])"
If you see <br> tags anywhere, please remove them and either substitute a new line or as a last resort replace with <br /> tags (The XHTML equivalent) to keep with the <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" ""> requirement.
I believe <br> and <br/> are equivelant in how they behave on the browser end. I've always prefered <br/> just because I hate to see tags that aren't closed =) Then again, I like xml. -- Ash Lux (talk | contribs) 15:59, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
I think the tags are interpreted exactly the same, also. The same is probably true for capitalized tags, which are also not valid in XHTML. When I see them on a page I can edit, I've been replacing them (or better, allowing the new line substitution to add the tags) so pages won't fail validation (yes, some user commented that some pages weren't passing's validator). The less human-added tags, the more likely any validation problems are somewhere in code. If I'm aware of any style inconsistency, I try to correct it. Karen 16:36, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Stop the presses![edit]

A few weeks ago I told Amgine that my goal was to write a news story, which got a laugh. I think you're doing a great job. Sometimes I (rarely) even add content or rework the story, so don't think all my edits are corrections. If you manage to get a "first edition" paper locally, compare it with a later edition paper. Often first edition papers are sent to locations farther from the presses so they will arrive about the same time as later editions. When there are corrections to a story, they're usually don't appear in the paper unless the press stops (usually due to a paper break). I used to take the first-run papers to the news room where up to 20 editors would pour over the stories for mistakes. Sometimes it's just a comma, other times it's an error of fact. Editors do make corrections while the presses are running, and sometimes the corrected pages are re-plated and hung. Good luck! Karen 00:58, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Hehe. You really do a great job, it's nice to have someone like you to fallback upon. I've always had the trouble of writing something in Wikipedia and a couple of weeks later realizing I had some huge glaring issues. It's easy to feel like a little insignificant ant there =) And don't laugh, but your title "Stop the presses!" made me go "omg what did I do???" :-D By the way, did you actually get around to actually writing a news story? Ashlux 01:03, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
No, not yet. I'm still struggling to understand the whole NPOV thing - I'd hate to put in a lot of work and have a few people claim it's not balanced or it's an editorial. Also, I'm out of town alot. That's why you'll see me pop in and make a whole lot of small edits to get current, then no edits for several days.
You're back. Great, now you can fix up all my stuff, and there's quite a bit of it =) Don't worry too much about the NPOV, just try to cover the sides reasonably fair. Sticking to facts and avoid trying to make a point that one side was right and the other was wrong. You might want to avoid subjects that you are particularly passionate about. I think you'll do just fine =) -- Ash Lux (talk | contribs) 15:48, 16 June 2006 (UTC)


is a dead link here. -Edbrown05 16:59, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

lol. yah. WP out of habit =) Should be WN:NOT :-) -- Ash Lux (talk | contribs) 17:00, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, and here's another link: What Wikinews is... Wikinews is relevant. Wikinews stories reflect events that impact people and explain why their subject matter is important to readers who may be unfamiliar with the topic. -Edbrown05 17:09, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
thanks, but why are you sending me there? -- Ash Lux (talk | contribs) 17:13, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
because I am attempting to understand objections to the use of cartoon content within articles. I do understand there is a lack of collaboration on the content of cartoon(s), but that could be overcome (here's an inactive community), either here on this wiki or elsewhere. -Edbrown05 17:25, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
Aah. Sorry, it took me a second to remember that you are the one who put the cartoon on this article. Graphics that are neutral point of view help illustrate the article are fine for wikinews. The problem is editorial cartoons, by their nature, have a POV. I'm not sure what the policies are with NPOV, but you might be interested in Wikimedia Commons. I use deviantART for my artwork, but it is not wiki-oriented at all. Maybe you could talk Wikimedia Foundation into starting a project similar to that inactive community, or push for editorials to be accepted in wikinews? -- Ash Lux (talk | contribs) 17:51, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
Check out m:Proposals for new projects. -- Ash Lux (talk | contribs) 18:07, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
This just a thought from someone who knows nothing about what their talking about, why not use svg based cartoon based wiki. images are easily group edited as its a text file. (The real question is how hard is svg to learn,). → m:SVG_image_support#Online_editing. Bawolff ☺☻Smile.png 20:29, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

vertical whitespace, and your infobox[edit]

Basketball.png 2006 NBA Finals:

I changed the vertical white space in your template: Template:NBA Finals 2006, as I thought it was a bit much (also changed to divs/css more, and removed the noprint class as to me it seems like something that should be printed with the article). If you don't like it feel free to change it back. Bawolff ☺☻Smile.png 20:21, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

It looks great, thanks =) I got busy with a trip to Dallas though and was not able to write articles for the other games yet. Actually, maybe I will do that now. Four days old isn't too bad, right? :-P -- Ash Lux (talk | contribs)
Glad you like it. I don't think theres any problem with stuff four days old. Bawolff ☺☻Smile.png 23:17, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

sources on images[edit]

Thank you for uploading images.All images require sources (See WN:FU). Please source the following images: Image:ESA Entertainment Software Assocation Logo.gif, Image:Rice-Owls-logo.gif, Image:University of Oklahoma OU Logo.png. Actually on that last one, the first version you uploaded, looks a lot better to me then the third [1] vs [2]. Do you mind if I revert to that revission? Thanks. Bawolff ☺☻Smile.png 20:37, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

I got most of these images from Wikipedia. I'll have to do some searching since (I don't think) their original sources weren't mentioned on there either. I would imagine it would be easy enough to find. -- Ash Lux (talk | contribs) 23:25, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
The image got modified a bit in attempts to get it to resize correctly. See User_talk:Karen#Image_on_article if you're interested. It never was resolved, so we should probably revert to the nicer version. -- Ash Lux (talk | contribs) 23:27, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Wikinews missing you[edit]

In less than a month you've done a lot of administrative fixing around here. You should be an admin but must be active for a month before being nominated. I'd like to nominate you in a few days, but haven't seen you around lately. Karen 11:28, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Yah, I've been kinda busy with switching jobs and stuff. My schedule should be more normal soon enough. =) -- Ash Lux (talk | contribs) 23:23, 9 July 2006 (UTC)