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-- Wikinews Welcome (talk) 17:21, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Huge explosions in Tianjin, China

Hi. You made changes to Huge explosions in Tianjin, China. Your edit summary said it was formatting improvements, but you changed facts, as well. Do you know if the sources (as listed) support your claimed facts? I am --SVTCobra 02:24, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Dutch sergeant may have gone to Syria to join ISIS, says Dutch Defence Ministry

Published. History of edits during review. --Pi zero (talk) 21:05, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Hi Leugen

You are very active here and even publishing lots of articles, congratulations. I tried to write about the very few interesting events here around. The reactions on the community did not feel too good. Someone hurt virtually all Wikimedia guide lines addressing me and made several predictions my articles wouldn't be reviewed anymore. This fulfilled even to the following articles. But that might be past.

When searching for a reviewer I was not lucky. Finally I found this Wikinews is a pretty small group. Are there any plans how to develop in the future?--Lib2know (talk) 10:36, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar

I, 14.139.242.195 (talk) (the IP of acagastya) award you the team barnstar for the tireless contribution to keep Wikinews updated!
14.139.242.195 (talk) 02:03, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Police shut down Edmonton pizza restaurant for illegally delivering alcohol

I would suggest to make more catchy and strong lede. The news, is not clear to an Indian college boy, if he is a Wikinews editor. When I was new to this project, I read this thing on User:Bddpaux's page.
Absolutely free advice for any new writers here:

• Within the first 3 sentences of any article you're writing, ask yourself, "Would a school teacher in Manila care about this? What about a waiter in Sydney or a young mother in Hong Kong?" The answer should be a quick 'Yes', or you might be wasting your time here: this is an international news site.
• I live by this about articles/submissions here: Get it, write it, submit it, move on. You'll be helping yourself if you adopt that motto too.

My intention is not to demotivate you, I am really sorry if you feel so, but this article is not providing much information. Let's work together and have a better lede.
14.139.242.195 (talk) 09:01, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

Some choice quotes:

• From WN:Newsworthiness: "Wikinews is global in reach but potentially local in coverage".
• From WN:Pillars of Wikinews writing: "Relevance should be to more than a few hundred people, which doesn't preclude local news." "The lede should show the focus is newsworthy."

I think that last point is key for the lede: our lede should help the young mother in Hong Kong to see what there is in the story that may be of interest to her, allowing her to judge accurately whether they wish to read more. --Pi zero (talk) 12:02, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

But, this is not that every teacher in Manila should actually care. What if I write about football and the teacher is not interested in sports? It used to disturb me a lot in the beginning days. But, that statement meant that it should appeal to a significant number of people.
14.139.242.195 (talk) 13:47, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

Yes. Even in Edmonton, not all readers will care equally about a given story. It should be clear why they might care, though, so that if they choose not to read on it's because they've made an informed decision not to. And it can sometimes be interesting to read about local goings on in distant parts of the world, if presented lucidly enough. --Pi zero (talk) 14:02, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

Just an advice

Instead of creating various pages, why not make like this:
Candidate A elected as Prime Minister of Canada
Candidate A, leader of the Party name, has become the Prime Minister of Canada after the last polling stations in British Columbia and Yukon closed at TIME...Or you can read it on my sandbox.
Copy - paste - edit them in main space once it is news
14.139.242.195 (talk) 01:31, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

Canadian politician Manmeet Bhullar dies aged 35 after traffic collision

Published. See review comments, history of edits during review. --Pi zero (talk) 18:06, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

Canadian politician Manmeet Bhullar dies aged 35 after traffic collision

Great work on this article. I was hoping to make this my return article but work sadly got in the way again. I'm happy to see someone go on and create it.

Thanks :) Chandlerjoeyross (talk) 21:49, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

At least 52, including six Shia Muslim activists, to be executed in Saudi Arabia

Published. Detailed history of edits during review. --Pi zero (talk) 20:22, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

Gunman attacks Planned Parenthood clinic, killing three, before surrendering

Published. See history of edits during review. --Pi zero (talk) 16:39, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

Court sentences mother to 26 years to life in prison for murdering infant

Hello! Seeing you after so many days. You were on a wikibreak? I just wanted to say that this article, you asked to be reviewed, is just smaller that the minimal length. A reviewer might point out this thing. Further, you can ask a reviewer in the freenode web chat for instant comments.
(It is u:acagastya)
116.119.128.96 (talk) 17:12, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

Iraqi military retakes government complex from ISIS in city of Ramadi

Argh. I hit a couple of snags here, one of which was major alterations to a source since submission (which, in this case, appears to include the mainstream news media echoing the Iraqi government's storyline; I really wish I'd been able to do a review just after it was submitted). Review comments. --Pi zero (talk) 17:44, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

User:Leugen9001/How to avoid plagiarism

Nice start on that. The next problem after cut 'n' paste of a couple of articles to make a Wikinews one is when people start with that, and scuff it up a bit; meaning change a wording here and there, reorder the details, and such. Starting like that, even if the article is so redone as to get past review, is still 'technically' plagiarism.

I've always advocated reading sources, deciding on how you want to present the information, then writing whilst referring to the sources to check you've got facts/quotes spot-on. What can be a real nuisance there is having three or four advert-laden source articles open in multiple tabs.

Of course, all contributors have ended up figuring out how to write for the project in their own way. What works for one person might not work for anyone else.

Maybe it'd be worthwhile expanding the essay onto other common issues. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 10:45, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

That was exactly what I wanted to add right after that.

Plagiary is also of course an ethical problem, and journalists can get into deep trouble over it regardless of whether it's illegal (and imo they should get into more trouble over it than they do). I recall listening, not so long ago, to the fuss over Fareed Zakaria and thinking, if he'd learned non-plagiary on en.wn synthesis articles he wouldn't be having this trouble. --Pi zero (talk) 17:05, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

The synthesis-writing technique you describe (with the short notes) seems potentially liable to slipping on details here and there, which I do observe a bit of in articles. As a contrasting technique, here's what I've tended to do when writing synthesis: I write a set of private notes on my laptop (not on-wiki), in which as I study the sources I set up sections for different aspects of the story, and write into each section the relevant passages quoted from the sources, sometimes quoting as much as a couple of paragraphs from a source (if it's too much, I should arrange my sections around smaller aspects); since it's just a private copy, there's no problem with copyright at that point. Then I look at what I've got, decide on an organization for my article, and when writing about each aspect I have all the relevant source passages right there and can work out what I want to say and say it entirely differently than any of the sources. Usually it's not difficult for me to avoid particulars of the way the sources say things because I'm choosing each thing to say from a thorough mixing of the sources, not trying to rephrase something from any one particular source. At any rate, it's worked for me — though admittedly it's not a small operation. --Pi zero (talk) 00:39, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

Taiwanese voters elect Democratic Progressive Party leader Tsai Ing-wen as president

Unfortunately, today didn't work out well for me wiki-wise, and I didn't get to this article until late enough that I felt it really needs more updating than I could give it within my purview as reviewer (it was a difficult and uncomfortable call, especially since I felt bad I hadn't gotten to it sooner). --Pi zero (talk) 23:31, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

'Quake' article

I love short, tight little articles like that one.....good work!! --Bddpaux (talk) 16:35, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

This is long overdue!!

		The Order of the Modest Pencil For completing 5 edits.
		Great work! Keep it up! --Bddpaux (talk) 16:38, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

Hi

Hello, Leugen9001. It has been a long time I didn't see your name in the recent changes. Hoping for a comeback?
acagastya 11:10, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

I was banned (for good reason) on Wikipedia for vandalism, among other things. I'm not banned on Wikinews, so I am still allowed to contribute, but I've got to be cautious to avoid breaking ban avoidance rules. --Leugen9001 (talk) 23:39, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

Welcome back :-) Gryllida (talk) 04:20, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Mass shooting occurs in Jacksonville, Florida; suspect and several individuals dead

Hi. Found some problems, some of which would have applied if I'd gotten to it late yesterday. Review comments; edits during review. --Pi zero (talk) 18:53, 27 August 2018 (UTC)