Wikinews:Water cooler/technical/archives/2025/June

Hiding page images from infoboxes

An article of mine recently got published, and the page image is showing File:Desktop computer clipart - Yellow theme.svg. I think Template:Infobox/p2 needs to be altered to add |class=notpageimage to the [[File:]]. SWinxy (talk) 19:51, 13 June 2025 (UTC)

Propose to install Page Assessments extension at this wiki

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https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:PageAssessments?project=Main&namespace=0&page_title= has an example.

I propose to (mis)use this extension here by supplying class

R submitted for review

U under review

D draft in progress

T has pending tasks specified

...and event date as the importance parameter, followed by "G" symbol for international news like "windows died" or "ubuntu 24.4 released" or "L" for regional news, followed by "m" for minor edut required or "M" for major revision, followed by a custom note

Like: Class = D

Importance = 2025-05-14 G m add location in first paragraph

If submitted for review, importance just says event date and G or L

In the report, article is linked and its class as second column and its importance in column 3.

I think this would make the page assessment page more useful than the newsroom, and help to prioritise reviewing and collaboration.

cc @GreekApple123

Thanks. Gryllida (talk) 16:00, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

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Hi all, please check above. I think you could be ones of the first users of this.

Please click "Reply" to the first message in this section to add a vote or a comment.

Consensus is required before the extension is installed here.

Thanks heaps. Gryllida (talk) 16:03, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

Hi @George Ho @Wikiwide @BigKrow @Lofi Gurl @Back ache @Md Mobashir Hossain @Almondo2025, @Dsuke1998AEOS, @Ternera, @Monsieur2137 @Asked42, @Sheminghui.WU, @excelblue (if you want yourself removed or someone else added to this list, please inquire here) A revision has been requested. Here is a list of what to do. (If/when you intend to start working on it, please Subscribe to this section and to this talk page, and post reply messages here when you started and finished editing) See below:

1) Please read the above discussion and add your comment or your vote.

Thanks. Gryllida (talk) 11:57, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

Discussion

It might be advisable to have some kind of measure of how long a news article is, as well as maybe how many facts/events it covers. Some Wikinews readers may want to have the ability to filter out articles that are too long for them to read, and reviewers may like to prioritize articles that are very short because they are easy to publish. GreekApple123 (talk) 18:47, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

Usually only one 'focal event'. Ok, I can check how to generate report with length. Gryllida (talk) 10:30, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

Created phab:T397853. -- Gryllida 15:52, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

Votes

Strong support I am guessing the devil is in the details, but something like this will add a lot of context. Hopefully it can be implemented in a way that allows for easy customization later on i.e. allowing readers to select articles based on their level of importance, etc. GreekApple123 (talk) 16:18, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

I support this idea currently as I spent obscene amounts of time every day checking dates of events in news room to prioritize. The easiest approach could be just to have one parameter 'event date' and nothing else. This would already be much better process for me. Gryllida (talk) 17:09, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

• Support this seems like it would be useful for the wiki. Ternera (talk) 14:11, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
• Support Md Mobashir Hossain (talk) 14:54, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

Older articles all supposedly dated 17 February 2025

If you try to look back at the older articles in any category, you will soon come to a point where all the older articles are shown with dates of 17 February 2025 -- even when those articles were published in 2024, 2023, or even older years. Example: Start from the Main Page, and click on "Culture and entertainment". That takes you to Category:Culture and entertainment which shows the 10 most recent articles. Click on "see older articles", and that takes you to a Wikinews:Dialog/do?wikidialogid=8 page, where there are another 10 articles listed but six of them are incorrectly dated 17 February 2025. (The "Dialog" function is not one I am familiar with, but regardless of how it works, the problem is that article after article shows up with an incorrect date attached.) -- Metropolitan90 (talk) 23:43, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

I believe what you are seeing is the result of work we did to upgrade our CC license around that time. If you click through to one of the articles, their individual publish dates are correct. I believe the date reported in those lists is something akin to "date added to category:Published" and it was modified when we did a mass edit to update our CC license. @Leaderboard did a lot of the heavy lifting with a bot. Maybe they can drill into the issue a bit better?Michael.C.Wright (^Talk/_Reviewer) 14:17, 30 June 2025 (UTC)

I think Michael is right, and I don't think there is an easy fix to this without large-scale changes (such as determining the published date for each article manually or programatically). Leaderboard (talk) 14:57, 30 June 2025 (UTC)