Wikinews talk:Policies and guidelines/Fair use

Amgine, thanks for creating this introduction to the concept of "fair use".

What do you think about adding these points?

• The Administrators of the Wikimedia Commons site have a policy which explicitly states that the Commons site cannot host "fair use" images.

• Upload is normally disabled on all Wikinews sites, so contributors cannot post images to a local repository which uses different rules than the Commons.

Long-time contributors are already aware of these points, but it would help new contributors to understand the current ground rules that are framing this discussion.

Looking forward, this page will be useful as part of a presentation to the Wikimedia Foundation board to make the case for allowing Wikinews to host its own "fair use" images, so thanks again for putting this material together.

Regards,

— DV 01:25, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)

<grin> It's a lot harder to write than I thought! I'll add those points immediately. - Amgine 01:31, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Wikicommons does not allow fair use images

Maybe we should note that since WN uses Wikicommons, we cannot allow storage of copyrighted or registered trademark images - that the use of a "fair use" tag in an upload is akin to nominating the image for deletion. (see: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:FAQ ) -- Davodd | Talk 01:49, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Did that address it? I think I already say "do not upload fair use to commons". - Amgine 01:53, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)

How this page should be developed

I've explained the fair use situation with regard to Wikinews a bit more in this mailing list post. In a nutshell, coming up with a legally sane policy on fair use is a prerequisite for re-enabling local uploads.--Eloquence 06:09, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)

The policy on image use specifically

Since this page only talks about fair use (and there are other cases of image licenses, such as image grants, that have to be addressed), I created Wikinews:Policies and guidelines/Image use policy. That is meant to explain what images may and may not be uploaded locally.

This came about because I've been trying to arrange a license grant of a particular image under the cc-by-sa license, but the copyright holder would have preferred to simply grant us a license. While not preferred, this should still be acceptable (i.e. this way we could also, for example, purchase stock photography and use it if we really really need to, with restrictions that they normally come with. Such use will let us build the news site that we need to build.) -- IlyaHaykinson 07:27, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Fair use and Firefox logo

I ran into this problem when putting the Firefox logo on a bunch of Mozilla-related pages; Amgine said no and reverted my edits. I'm not the only editor who has ran into this problem. I believe that there should be a repository on Wikinews specifically and solely for images which are permitted on Wikipedia but not Wikimedia commons, such as fair use images. Any other image should be transwikied to Commons and deleted. Andrew pmk 00:56, 11 May 2005 (UTC)