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Time Travel?

How come whenever I hear stories about Saudi Arabia it always sounds like we've all stepped into a time machine and gone back about 1500 years?

Man I'd Hope I'll never go to Saudi Arabia, their court systems are so backwards.--KDP3 (talk) 17:37, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Actually, the idea of a death penalty is the issue, and not only Saudi Arabia has that. Former UK politician Michael Portillo investigated it and found that most of the methods used in the U.S. fail the 'cruel and unusual punishment' test. If I recall correctly it was shown that giving the subject helium instead of oxygen would cause them to die in a state of euphoria. Strangely, a method that makes someone die happy was considered unacceptable.

Saudi's use of beheading - as 13th century as it is - is quick. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 08:44, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

There are many ways a beheading - particularly with a sword - can go wrong (the news even makes reference to that, mentioning drugging). Another part of it is that execution is public. 131.107.0.111 (talk) 19:09, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

A democratic country? Saudi Arabia?

Article: In October, 2007, Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day said, "We will not actively pursue bringing back to Canada murderers who have been tried in a democratic country that supports the rule of law."

How does he define Saudi Arabia as a democratic country?

^uns. I wonder what the 'that it has to do with canada used to defend its citizens against the deathpenalty" here. Is it really the first? If otherways is that related as the reason for the current aproach? what does it compare? Or is it just a statement that is significant because more people faced death (..perhaps in Saudi arabia?) as a result of the policy? International courts should be willing to support the victim, perhaps it means in such cases they will need to start a paralel procedure. It is just a suggestion. also if the story laid out like this happened as far as we can check or reconstruct, it is most relevant what exactly creates or consists the bias against the two brothers. eg. Palestineans have been discriminated a lot in the various arab nations they went to, otoh the very high claim (and the partial procedure) strongly suggest (rich ppl's) nepotism. It might be hard to proof an affiliation with the judges or justice system, but it is a well known and rather easily verifiable fact that in such cases the claiming family is known to have a (more) prominent place. relevant but missing details. another detail is they may be glad to have the option to punish someone with (some?) ties with the west for a direct violent act. he at least was involved in, sth. like with the iranian-usa journalist. 'Not a real case but not completely nothing'. However my impression what we see here is basically class justice ,(from ppl that are rather hatefull), and not improbably the anti-palestinean bias is welcome just as much as the statement the western culture is also able to induce violent attitudes.(argument and motivation) 24.132.170.252 (talk) 22:58, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Lol, Saudi Arabia is democratic? But even if it was, Democracy doesn't make a society automatically good.

The Canadian government should pay C$5,000,000 to save a life

If the Canadian government can save a life by paying C$5,000,000, they should. Life is more valuable than a bit of money. Countries should place basic human rights before their budget. They could always request the man pays it off over his life. Computerjoe (talk) 20:10, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

The cardinal rule is that you do not negotiate with terrorists. Giving them $5M will just give them further incentive to capture more innocent people and put them on show trials before beheading them. No go. 206.248.164.192 (talk) 23:30, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

It isn't the Saudi government who would receive it but the victim's family. Computerjoe (talk) 07:18, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Barbaric to put a price on a life. --Brian McNeil / ^talk 07:49, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

That's taxpayer money to save somebody who isn't even native-born Canadian. Really, they should be asking Lebanon for five million.--64.90.84.103 (talk) 05:22, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

It's a life. Really shouldn't matter. Computerjoe (talk) 10:21, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

ok, so they moved to Canada, then left....why bother moving to Canada if youre gonna put yourself in a situation such as this not even 3 years later? And then to expect the Canadian government to pull a rabbit out of their hats regarding another countries law? Sometime these stories make you wonder if a world government wouldnt be so bad after all...since us humans cant manage such clusterf*ck such as having hundreds of countries to run for the survival of ONE species....

The usian helps the pakistani gov to pay 10$ a pashtun life.. life of palestineans is also cheap.. however it's a no. justice is corrupt as it is, if you start paying that way more people will be tortured into false confessions. because a human life in these nations don't always average our price (10 us$ vs 5 000 000 ca$).24.132.170.252 (talk) 23:02, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Crime in Benin~

After having read about the turmoil in this place, comming with great concern and sheer disbelief, coupled with grave concern of my loved ones: I am happy to live in, and enjoy the freedom of living in the United States of America. Never...will I take for granted the freedom that we enjoy on a daily basis, the freedom of speach, of press, of action of Relegion, and all that those freedoms entail. We as Americans do not have a point of comparison for what is currently going on there. Yes, Benin has come a long way it it's quest to become a more civilized region, but the trials and tribulations in direct relation to the turmoil remains a great cause for concern. Yes, they may have turned a page, in the right direction, but the danger of the mixed community, coupled with the diversified ethnic groups whose beliefs are in direct conflict with each other, is of great concern. The values of tribes, is entrinsiq and undaunting. These things are slow to change, and the interjection of the supremest white creates jealousy and resentment amongst the long time residents, who believe they shoudld have superiority. Turmoil is the result. There is activity directly resulting from this resentment at the expense of the whites that is horrifying. A personal friend was attacked, and the situation became quite grave. I believe in my heart of hearts, that at one time, in the future, this may be a place where all people are accepted, no matter what color their skin is, no matter what tribe they emmulate from, but that time is not now. The growth of Benin, is in it's formulative stages, and without a doubt, has leaps and bounds to go. It is a long time comming, no doubt, but it is merely infantile, at best in it's pattern related to growth, and acceptance relating to genuine harmony amonst humans. I only wish for all of the diverse groups of Benin to come to harmony amongst themselves, and to be able to accept everyone as humans, all equal in the eyes of our creator, whatever one conjures it to be, and to live in Peace, as we do in the United States of America. God bless the good people of Benin, and may Karma prevail in it's effort to overturn the unaceptable behavior of those misguided and in conflict. I wish Peace and Harmony to Benin. Never in my life has my appreciation for what soldiers have died for to protect, in the United States of America, really home with such magnitude. I am proud and happy to not only life in the United States of America, but will be forever gracious of the freedom that is provided for me. I wish you the Best, Benin, and may you path be one of great Evolution, as opposed to Revolution. You have been graced with my most sincere blessing: Evolve...and go as on human on this Earth. My most sincere regards ~

Caron Carus

Writer, Critic, Artist and Inventor~ Authorization given herein for publication Electronic Signature provided upon request

Execute his ass. You break the law you suffer the punishment at least they dol out real punishment not like in America where they throw you in jail where half the criminals want to be any way because have have nothing else out side the walls

Kohail brothers

I hope that Mohamed came beck home soon. He is innocent

mohamed

SULTAN Y MOHAMED KOHAIL SON INNOCENTES.

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great information..... —120.29.108.152 (talk) 21:11, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

I met Mohamed back in high school and I could say for a fact, he'd never hurt a flie ... He always said have peace "make peace" ! I'll always remember him as a happy great person! Free Mohamed Kohail!