Comments:Israel announces ceasefire in Gaza Strip; rocket fire into Israel continues

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So meticulously planned[edit]

It's disgusting how well planned this mass slaughter was, and now days after Hamas asked for another a ceasefire on reasonable terms, Israel comes up with their own ceasefire to make them look benevolent. Their idea of a ceasefire is to still militarily occupy an area it has no right to be in, and to also make sure no humanitarian aid can reach the wounded starving people of Gaza. It is just disgusting what the Israelis have done, absolutely despicable, and if Israel thinks this will bring peace, well all this will create is thousands of Palestinians who no longer care if they live or die because their homes and families have been destroyed by a mass slaughter perpertraded by an occupying aggresive nation which refuses to sign numerous peace treaties and refuses to listen to the UN. Soapy (talk) 02:43, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

I listned to interviws with palestineans on radio today. Things will be bad from now. Israelis are quite unaware what a mess they made. Hanan Ashrawi said that even the most peaceloving palestinean, the moderats, will not talk to israelis now on. Common palestineans say next intifada will be in westfriendly arab nations and the green flag islamist will take over them. And in israel too many jews have hardned themself in the roll of occupier and the paradoxal view of themself as victims. The idea of the palestinians as subhuman is to far spread. Fuck israel and they nazilike mentality they developed. The only solution for them is to pay with land for peace and it will not happen as I understand it. But maby when the arab countries around them turn radical and probably get their hands on nukes they will learn the hard way what misstake they done. And then its to late for them. To late... So lets just write of israel and its inhabitants. No sympaty. international (talk) 16:04, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
Uh-huh ... and I think pretty much the exact opposite, which is that Israel has every right to attempt to destroy Hamas, who have an unshakable, irrational desire to constantly attack Israel with rockets and bombs, and that this is a desire commonly shared in Palestine, which only exists as a population as a kind of revenge on Israel for the old Arab war (of aggression on Israel). I don't know why otherwise sane people often support Palestine, I think pacifism is the usual reason; opinions are astonishingly polarised, so must be based on something more deep-rooted than the facts of any recent news story. 81.131.53.3 17:35, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
Naw, thinking thinking. Hamas is quite similar to the state of israel in its fascistoid... someting. To simplify, the state of israel and sionists stole the land and expelled lot of ppl. The palestinians is obviously seen as unwanted animals. Israel is now worser than southafrica was under apartheid. So the palestinians have all right to fight for their right with whatever means they have. War have its own logic and hamas is a result of it. (With possibly good help from Israel as a divide and conquertactic against plo that backfired, like cia:s osamabinladen+alqueda in afghanistan.) So the "unshakable, irrational desire to constantly attack Israel" is not irrational, just unsuccessfull for the moment. Whatever one think about hamas it is the palestinians right to choose the way how to fight israel. A fight that is rightous, imo, untill israel is forced to leave back lot of land when reason and diplmacy dont work. (pre -67 border?) Its up to israel to do the right thing. Or face the consequenses of this war. Stones, bombbelts or nukes. Peace is easiest to fix for them. Give back the stolen land. international (talk) 18:53, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
I Don't understand Hamas made a truce with the occupying aggressor, Israel, this is basically the french resistance making a truce against the Germans. Then Hamas held up the truce, Israel refused to acknowledge it mainting its illegal blockades, blockades which were supposed to be eliminated in the truce, and then actually bombing Hamas on November 4th, breaking the truce and then blaming it on Hamas. So not only did Hamas make a truce with the nation that is occupying its territory, it upheld the truce, but Israel did not, and yet somehow Hamas is to blame...how does this argument make any sense? Soapy (talk) 19:53, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
IP 81.131.53.3. Do you insinuating someting with "so must be based on something more deep-rooted than the facts of any recent news story" like 'everyone against israel is an antisemite jewhater nazist'? international (talk) 20:43, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Do they really mean a ceasefire?[edit]

From wikipedia: "A ceasefire (or truce) is a temporary stoppage of any armed conflict, where each side of the conflict agrees with the other to suspend aggressive actions."

Israel did not even talk to Hamas, how can they declare a ceasefire all alone? What they are doing is more like temporarily stop shooting in the middle of the battle, claim they are in peace so that when the other side continues to shoot at them they can say Hamas is starting a new war.

The idea of "unilateral ceasefire" is absolutely ridiculous, and really disgusting as some stupid people think Hamas would break the "agreement" they never agreed to. Unicode (talk) 05:47, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Do the brains behind these operations actually take a step back and realize how stupid they are? These are full grown, adult men fighting eachother over whos fairy tale is more appropriate. Thousands of year old stories that have been given too much influential control over every aspect of our survival. If they werent so damn dumb, they would be able to shutup, stop killing eachother, and co-operate with eachother in finding the similarities and differences between their two structures of faith.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.158.77.91 (talkcontribs)

Oh crap![edit]

It seems that the 20-day slaughterfest is over... Well, they did try harder on those last days, with those incendiary white phosphor boms... Well, now is the time to end it, because the Obama cerimony is very near. But they can't complain... Over 1000 dead in 20 days. That's a very good score, especially considering that israeli casualties were less that 20 (three civilians, 17 soldiers). Nice performance, nice slaughterfest... Who says palestinians aren't useful?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.243.118.185 (talkcontribs)

I find it laughable how people can support Hamas or say that Israel should make peace with them. Sure lot's of Palestinians died. Want to know why? Because Hamas specifically situated themselves next to people so anyone coming after them had to go through the innocents first. A very dirty tactic, and one that played out pretty well for Hamas. They basically left Israel with two options; continue to get rockets fired at them or go on the offensive and get innocent people killed. Both of them are lose/lose situations, and Hamas benifits either way. And as for the idea of peace between Hamas and Israel, Hamas's objective is to destroy Israel. That doesn't exactly instill Israelis with a great need to make peace with them. The best that anyone can hope for is non-aggression, which everyone knows can never last. So the only hope for real peace is if the Gaza residents decide to wake up and realise that having Hamas around is going to draw fire to them and put someone in power who will at least considering being reasonable.

And here's some food for thought; while plenty of Arab countries continue to cry foul over Israel's treatment of Palestians, they themselves are in no big hurry to take them in. In fact some of them seem content not to let them into their countries.--122.148.210.58 02:04, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Please read the whole page before you post, a lot of what you just said is what I just refuted above. As for the idea that it's Hamas's fault that they don't stand in the middle of a field and wait to be mowed down by the Israeli army, that's laughable, just as it was when the Germans claimed the French resistance were at fault when the nazis killed civilians all in the attempt to kill the, let me quote Nazi propaganda, "terrorists".Soapy (talk) 03:52, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
Soapy how dare you compare freedom fighters like the French resistance to Hamas and their acts of terrors.--KDP3 (talk) 04:04, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
Go back to during the war, before the revised propaganda that comes from the end of fighting. The situations are completely comparable. Because you may like the Israeli government and military more than the Nazi German government and military does not actually change anything; if it did then there would not be any memorial at Oradour-sur-Glane or investigations of similar incidents because to the Nazis and to the Germans whose sons were being killed by the resistance, that was simply fighting terrorism as it applied to them. 72.154.55.98 04:28, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

lol OUR WORLD IS RUN BY SUCH RETARDED, STONEAGE LEADERS. This is pathetic, a disgrace to the planet earth and all of its creatures. We actually have to schedule certain times when we wanna stop killing eachother? Instead of using them to forge weapons to beat your brothers down, why not use your thumbs for something a little more symbolic to your existence and shove them up your a**—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.63.52.208 (talkcontribs)

Israel declares ceasefire?!?[edit]

AFAIK, Hamas was the one that wanted ceasefire. And now, Israel unilaterally (?!?) declares ceasefire and Hamas rockets Israel. Something isn't right here... I think Israel is the one that launches rockets from Palestina and then says that it's the Hamas rocketing Israel.

I also don't know how is it possible to unilaterally declare ceasefire - ceasefire must be billateral to be ceasefire. 193.2.145.2 11:55, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Hamas has said they want Israeli troops out of Gaza, so in their mind they're justified in firing rockets. I would also like to point out that people would be able to figure out quite easily if Israel was launching rockets at itself. Plus every single time there's been a ceasefire....Hamas has always launched rockets into Israel or failed to stop someone else from doing the same. Come on, their charter calls for the destruction (read: genocide) of Israel, does it come as a suprise that they are so insistant on carrying out their goal? --122.148.210.58 01:14, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

The picture is innapropriate[edit]

The article is fine. But, I have two problems with the picture.

1) It shows destruction in Gaza, but the article is about an Israeli cease fire and Gaza still firing rockets. If you're going to have a picture, wouldn't it make more sense to show damage caused by rockets into Israel.

2) The caption says that that a mosque and orphanage were hit. That makes it sound liek Israel was targeting mosques and orphanages or careless in where they were hitting. Was it a mistake? Was it a weapons depot below? As it stands, this doesn't have any context.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 208.252.128.18 (talkcontribs)

The article is mainly talking about how this is the end of the Israeli military's bombardment of Gaza, so I think it is appropriate to show a picture that shows what happened to Gaza during the bombardment...as for whether Israel was targeting the mosque and the orphanage, Israeli military officials say that they do in fact target mosques because they call them storehouses for rockets. And over 400 children died during the bombings, I'd say there's no reason to think the Israeli military cares what they hit. Soapy (talk) 18:08, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

HAMAS[edit]

HAMAS IS ARROGANT AN WILL ONLY SEE INOCENT FOLK'S GET DESTROYED,THE BEST IDEA IS TO DO THE SAME THING WAS DONE TO SADDAM HUSIEN DONT HAVE MERCY ITS HARD TO SEE KIDS BEING BRUTALLY KILLED FOR NO REASON,ISREAL IS IN NO POSITION TO STAND BY FOOLISH PEOPLE FOR SURE,THIS IS NOT A FIGHT WIC WE SEE TODAY ITS A GENERATION TO THREE FLASHES,LONG ISSUE'S WHICH HAS STILL NOT BEEN SORTED OUT,WE AS POEPLE FROM OUTSIDE COULD ONLY PRAY AN HAV PEACE BROUGHT TO THE SOUL'S BEEN TAKEN OUT OF LIFE WITH OUT PERMISSION.AN HOPE THIS ARGUEMENT SOME HOW BRINGS PEACE TO ALL WHO HAVE AN IDEA TO KILL,MUST CHANGE TO SAVE LIFE TO KIDS WHO ARE DAMAGED IN EMOTION AN NEEDS .....—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 61.16.160.66 (talkcontribs)

Turn off caps control and learn how to use sentances. --122.148.210.58 01:14, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Learn to use sentences? Pffft, what are you smoking. And 'turn off the caps'? That's just crazy talk! ;) Gopher65talk 16:54, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

even norway[edit]

Well, most of people doesn't understand the feeling of Palestinians, They lived there for almost all history, and at last the find hebrews taking over that piece of land. If norway was taking by hebrews or anybody else they'll do the same, almost all country of the world did it, so please try to see further than Israel!—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.114.190.153 (talkcontribs)