Comments:Supporters of Canadian youth held in Guantanamo gather, demand action
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Here we go, another Guantanamo scandal. Why does everyone always assume that all held are innocent? Why does everyone think that the prisoners always tell the truth? We live in a gullible world. Contralya 09:05, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
- The very existence of Guantanamo is an affront to the principles of justice. Why aren't these people (a) held in the country where the "crime" was committed? (b) Afforded the same "innocent until proven guilty" rights as other alleged criminals?
- The US would do well to deal with their home-grown terrorists who bomb abortion clinics and so before going and grabbing people in foreign countries and without trial declaring them "enemy combatants". --Brian McNeil / talk 09:53, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
- People who bomb abortion clinics aren't terrorists. --206.116.168.12 11:16, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
- we don't assume hes innocent, in fact the article says that hes not, we just assume that hes a human and so international laws for human rights should be followed! But i suppose you believed in WMDs so we do live in a gullible world!
- Well I know for certain that if they had to detain and try militants and suicide bombers in Iraq, all the troops would die. There usually aren't proper facilities in 'any country'. Yes, they should have a trial, but for a number of reasons, like how terrorists are good at hiding evidence, local courts would probably find ANYONE convicted innocent simply because they are being tried by Uncle Sam, and the fact that merely hearing about a particular case is trying to kill innocents and such, makes security look bad.
But the fact still remains: People always assume that the prisoners are innocent and that they always tell the truth. Funny how people will believe a suicide bomber, but at the same time know that O.J. is guilty of murder.
And by the way, about that last comment, I know that there were no WMDs in Iraq and DO NOT think that the president that possibly the lowest approval rating in history represents what the American people think. Just his little band of supporters (well less than 25% of the population). Contralya 10:33, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
- While I agree that its hard to convict terrorists, its no excuse for not following the Geneva convention (but from a country where the VP can get out of following rules by switching departments every 2 seconds I don't expect any better). If you don't have the evidence, then how do you know the detainee is the right person?
If a man shoots at you with a gun, you shoot him, he limps away, disposes of the gun then dies, did he not shoot at you? People seem to like the idea that troops murdering civilians better than the idea that the man disposed of the gun. Though you do have a point, in that if there is no evidence, how do you know they did it; but what if the evidence wouldn't convince a court because of bias or the fact that court cases can take many months?
You don't have to look far to see that there is no shortage of prejudice against Americans, especially the government.Contralya 11:08, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
self defense?
[edit]if you're throwing grenades...you aren't defending yourself....you're trying to kill people
The Canadian government should revoke his citizenship
[edit]He doesn't really care about Canada and he's a traitor.
He only uses his Canadian citizenship to get preferential legal treatment.