Talk:Riots greet French government's labor reform

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Editorial[edit]

This article is commentary, or an editorial, because it attempts to convince the reader of an employer position with respect to the new labor laws:

"The French labor laws are one among the tougher labor laws of Europe, that would prevent employers from trimming their workforces without paying substantial severance packages. This is not conducive to the modern industries that would rely on more intellectual turnover and anticipate more unexpected changes. For eg., it would be almost impossible for Google to precisely say what their job requirements are going to be after 5 years. In this case, how can they hire anyone from France permanently for life?"

en.Wikinews does not publish these kinds of stories. -Edbrown05 19:29, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

I like the article for the context it reports, but the last sentence also adds to the editorial tone of the article:

"In just hard times, jobs are scarce for older skills and most people find it hard to cope up with the change. It is sometimes tough to realize that it is easier to be part of it and work with it than fight it."

I will move the story to {{Develop}} where changes can be made. Please see Our policies. -Edbrown05 19:44, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

France is not civil war at all.[edit]

There's some marginal breakout (pretty on TV show, with Eiffel tower in background ...) but it's just some houligans (people who love brawling for brawling)

Some facts (neutral i hope) :

  • There's 38 kinds of contracts in France, all in order to create jobs.
  • It's years that Bosses want a contrat they could use to fire people just because they want (or they may ) with all motive (or no motive) they want (the so-called flexibility). Many people think CPE (and CNE) is just a first step before it's generalised (to simplify, i think they'll say, it's the way politic work in France, the tree hidding the forest behind)
  • In the same law there's other parts less know outside France but as important. It's possible to hire yound people at 14 year old (15 year old for night work). Until this law school was mandatory until 16 years old.
  • There's more and more "poor workers" : people with full time job but under powerty level. Recenttly, journalists found "homeless workers" and it's something France discovers. Other new social thing : people with with more than one job ...
  • Even if jobless rate slowdown in France, a majority think it's a lie as helped people is growing more and more. the RMI, (Revenu minimum d'insertion grow by 5% in 2005)

Even into PM party there's people asking changes to this law.

Some others states that this gorvernment passed a law some month ago stating that ALL the changes made to "Work Law" SHOUD be MADE with negociations. It's not the case with this law.


if you add the copyright law targeting directely young people ....

The law is called : "Loi de cohésion sociale" : Law of social cohesion (google translation here)

sorry for my english

Jacques Divol 10:56, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Don't apologise for your quite good english. (and I probably shouldn't have thown in a little slang) "quite good" is bad english -Edbrown05 11:35, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

... for your English which is quite good. -Edbrown05 11:36, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

you're too gentle...
some addendum :
The politics Pro CPE : rightists CONS (UMP) but not all and UNI a student Cons union (don't want the univertsity blocaded).
The politics against CPE : DEM : center-right (UDF), and leftists (Socialist Parti, Communists;Green, Extrem-Left) and leftists students unions (UNEF)
"Extrem rightists" : Front National : don't want the univertsity blocaded, no pro nor against CPE (i think pro)
last thing : 2007 will see the Presidential Great Voting. It's the beginning of the play !

Jacques Divol 12:56, 27 March 2006 (UTC)


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okay[edit]

see Divol... publishing story

Some facts and NPOV[edit]

I tried to add a few facts and precisions (for instance, about the unemployment percentage, which many misunderstand as the ratio of unemployed youth, which it isn't, to my knowledge), and reworded sentences that somehow seemed to endorse the French PM's POV as fact. Submarine 21:41, 27 March 2006 (UTC)