Talk:Satirist Stephen Colbert runs for U.S. President
My original reporting many concerns the last paragraph, about the history of the show and of Colbert personally. ISD 15:33, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
- Original reporting is only if you are directly involved with the subject of the article or information contained in the article. The information in the last paragraph doesn't sound like original, it sounds like normal information. How is the information in the last paragraph original reporting? —FellowWiki Newsie 15:48, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
- It isn't original reporting, just because you wrote about what you watched on a TV show. If it were something that happened on TV, unscripted and live, but not in the real world, then maybe... say Kelly Ripa broke a leg, live, on Live with Regis and Kelly, and it hadn't been reported elsewhere yet, I could see maybe that qualifying. But otherwise, no.
- I've added a source link to the recent NYT column. -- Zanimum 16:18, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
The article says 'truthiness' means "to believe something intuitively, without regard for actual facts, logic or evidence" which isn't right - believing in it is not in the word's definition. Truthiness is simply "truth from the gut" as opposed to "truth from the facts." Mrn71 20:36, 17 October 2007 (UTC) Mrn71
"On the show he plays a right-wing political pundit, based on real-life pundits such as Bill O'Reilly and Stone Phillips."
You're putting Stone Phillips in the same category as Bill O'Reilly as a "right-wing political pundit"? Seems like a poorly written, disingenuous, and unfair statement to me.
- Not really. He plays a right-wing political pundit. The character is based on Bill O'Reilly and Stone Phillips. None of those things are secret. I think he goes after Stone Phillips mannerisms and Bill O'Reilly's bravado; but parsing that down for this is not particularly necessary. But you're welcome to try. --David Shankbone 20:53, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
Not really news is it? Sounds just like a joke for his comedic show, doesn't it? 220.127.116.11 21:29, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
- Well, with over 400 stories on it found on Google News, I think it counts. --David Shankbone 21:34, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
Pundit Stone Phillips?
Why would Stone Phillips be named as one of the "real-life pundits" that Stephen Colbert parodies? Stone Phillips and Bill O'Reilly are in two completely different worlds when it comes to the world of politics. Phillips simply reads the news--he's an anchorman, not a pundit--whereas O'Reilly fabricates it. Phillips' gravitas is not the same as O'Reilly's "analysis" of political news.
- Colbert himself has said that his character may reflect the politics and antics of O'Reilly, but the gravitas of Phillips. See: http://campusprogress.org/features/375/five-minutes-with-stephen-colbert --David Shankbone 19:59, 22 October 2007 (UTC)