Talk:Venezuelan President Chavez criticises U.S. President Bush in U.N. address

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'Hugo Chavez criticized that Bush was “speaking like the owner of the world”, but in fact, he said, is “the spokesman of imperialism”. It mentioned fragments of the speech of the agent chief executive of the United States in its “message” to the peoples of the World and the defense of the “democracy”, and it responded to him that it is “the false democracy of the elites”, imposed by weapons and bombs. “We cannot allow the consolidation of the world-wide dictatorship” that promotes Bush and its allies, it affirmed.' (From this article)

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criticized that Bush was “speaking like the owner of the world”, but in fact, said, is “the spokesman of imperialism”. It mentioned fragments of the speech of the agent chief executive of the United States in its “message” to the towns and the defense of the “democracy”, and it responded to him that that is “the false democracy of the elites”, imposed with arms and pumps. “We cannot allow the consolidation of the world-wide dictatorship” that promotes Bush and its allies, it affirmed. (From google translate of the Spanish source [1]) Zer T 00:07, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

This was obviously written in spanish and put in a computer translator this article is bad for so many reasons

Is this news?

If I had a dollar everytime Chavez has bitched about the President, I would have enough money to bribe every congressman to impeach Bush. —this is messedrocker (talk) 00:53, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

actually it is news... Chavez is making speeches at the UN Assembly...

"The UN system born after World War II collapsed. It's worthless"

""The devil came here yesterday," he said, referring to Mr Bush's speech on Tuesday. "It still smells of sulphur today," he added."

He already referred Bush as a 'devil' the other day.. and again in the UN Assembly, also added that UN Assembly is worthless.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5365142.stm?ls

http://www.voanews.com/english/2006-09-21-voa78.cfm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/5362884.stm

Zer T 01:00, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

I'm being more facetious here than not, but the point I am trying to get at is that Chavez has complained about the US President so many times I (in my cynical manner) barely consider it news anymore. —this is messedrocker (talk) 01:06, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Consider the UN General Assembly, he stated it out loud and pointed 'the devil' to Bush right in front of all people to see. This is big news considering it is presented in an international level with major government leaders present. Sorry for bad english. Although I prefer a new article that includes all that happened in the UN Assembly and not just Chavez ranting against Bush. Zer T 01:12, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

This article is Bad

It has many issues with NPOV and it was obviously written in another language and then translated the entire article barely makes sense. I have no problem with a real article but, this is bogus. --The 13th 4postle 01:30, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

what needs to be fixed?

I think there is some news here. What do people think the problems are? NPOV? Ongoing event? Not wikinewsie? TRWBW 06:56, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

The comment "This was obviously written in spanish and put in a computer translator. This article is bad for so many reasons" does not make any sense, meanwhile those reasons are not cited (or quoted). I suspect this is clearly a censorship made by the US governement in order to avoid this kind of information. It should not surprise anyone , because the "4th power" is the most important thing that controls the masses in the US and other puppet governements. Apparently this censorship is made too, in order to avoid to read more deep information as the book cited. (Noam Chomsky: Hegemony or Survival )

article does require language cleanup is not publishable yet: eg., in the lead paragraph itself, "discourse", "announcing his country for a non-permanent seat", "is the US government and his imperialistic project.", "When doing use of the tribune", "recommended to all the assistants". Doldrums 21:07, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

actually this article has only one source http://www.jornada.unam.mx/imprimir.php?fecha=20060921&nota=056n1mun.php&seccion=nota .. I have been monitoring it for days now and it seems to me nothing changes.. btw there are 3 source links I added that were not incorporated into this article but is relevant for those who want to clean this up Zer T 21:47, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

this article is considered abandoned to me. btw change the article title.. it is not relevant anymore Zer T 21:50, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

pov

this article reports on Chavez's speech at considerable length, much of the speech is critical of the US government and its policies. in order to keep the article NPOV, make sure that a response from the US is duly reported. Doldrums 16:49, 30 September 2006 (UTC)