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The expansion of the universe becomes noticeable only on a scale way larger than the one of a galaxy (at least one hundred million light-years, one thousand times the size of the Milky Way). It has very little or no influence on local dynamics. In fact the collision between our galaxy and Andromeda will happen in a few billions of years (three billion or something approaching, the Sun will still exist at that time), but it has nothing to do with the expansion of the universe.

81.185.159.85 (talk)13:38, 21 August 2010

Indeed, I was well aware that the two events are entirely unrelated. I was just referring to the lively dynamics of The Local Group to illustrate the remoteness of the timescale considered when we talk about The Universe expanding indefinitely. Yes the Sun will likely still be kicking when we crash into Andromeda, but by then - at least according to most models-it will have expanded to the size where it will have engulfed the Earth- or pushed the Earth's orbit farther out into the solar system- in either case The Earth's atmosphere will have long been stripped away by the Solar wind. As a cooler red giant It will have fused virtually all of its hydrogen and most of its remaining supplies of helium and will be puttering out as it struggles to make do with carbon and oxygen.

67.142.172.20 (talk)01:50, 22 August 2010