Wikinews:IRC workshop/May 22, 2011

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[20:51] <MC8> This is shaping up to be an awesome turnout
[20:54] <pizero> This is what it looked like building up to the hatefest four weeks ago.
[20:54] * MC8 debates blinking the site notice
[20:55] * MC8 nominates pizero as chairperson
[21:00] <pizero> Good grief, I don't have the confidence to do stuff like that.
[21:01] <pizero> Here's an extra topic for discussion, though: Is every other week too often for these things?
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[21:10] <dendodge> Is anything happening in here?
[21:11] <pizero> No.
[21:11] <dendodge> Shame.
[21:11] <pizero> Lack of turnout suggests lack of a genuine need.
[21:11] <dendodge> I'll linger anyway, since I have nothing better to do.
[21:11] <pizero> One would hate to miss it if something *did* happen.  :-)
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[21:12] <pizero> Don't know that anyone is logging.
[21:13] <MC8> Picochip08 is (properly, this time)
[21:13] <MC8> ...
[21:14] <pizero> Eek.
[21:14] <MC8> I don't remember programming that
[21:14] <pizero> Short term memory is the first to go.
[21:14] <Wackywace> Fun, fun, fun, fun, fun, fun.
[21:14] <pizero> Anyone have any thoughts on "How should we welcome the University of Wollongong's journalism students?"?
[21:15] <pizero> <crickets chirp>
[21:15] * MC8 has no ideas whatsoever
[21:15] <dendodge> Are they still doing it?
[21:15] <MC8> But they're about to drop off the queue, I tagged a few as abandoned today
[21:15] <dendodge> I thought they would have finished by now.
[21:16] <MC8> Some of them are awful, I don't think they've read the SG
[21:16] <MC8> (hm, chatham house rules might be worth it next time)
[21:17] <pizero> I've really lost track of who the UoW students are.
[21:18] <Wackywace> Not sure, but this looks like one given it's about AUS: Journalist's arrest sparks alarm over the legality of social networking activity
[21:18] <Wikilink2_> http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Journalist%27s_arrest_sparks_alarm_over_the_legality_of_social_networking_activity
[21:18] <MC8> pizero: there's a list on AAA iirc
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[21:20] <pizero> Yeah, mayb. There'd been some possibles (and definitely's) accumulating on the water cooler, at least some of which did get copied to AAA. Not sure they all did.
[21:20] <pizero> *maybe
[21:21] <MC8> There's not been a definitive list
[21:22] <pizero> Brianmc had started to put together a careful analysis of edits-by-phase to each of their articles, but I'm pretty sure that didn't get maintained.
[21:22] <dendodge> There's a category somewhere, isn't there?
[21:22] <MC8> yeah, {{UoW 2011}}
[21:22] <Wikilink2_> http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Template:UoW_2011
[21:22] <MC8> (has a link, I know that's a template :P)
[21:23] <Wackywace> Someone's just made this; a news article from 2009. Has no develop tag? Barack Obama speech in Prague, 2009
[21:23] <Wikilink2_> http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_speech_in_Prague%2C_2009
[21:23] <pizero> Huh. There's a .
[21:23] <Wikilink2_> http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Category:UoW_student
[21:25] <MC8> Wackywace: nice article though
[21:25] <MC8> it might have just been c&p'd off archives, perhaps?
[21:26] <MC8> I say "nice", I mean "nicely formatted". It's a presser
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[21:30] <pizero> If we don't want to give up on these workshops altogether (don't know, myself), perhaps it would make sense to make them monthly.
[21:30] <MC8> Well, this one is de-facto "not running", isn't it?
[21:34] <pizero> I was saying after the one four weeks ago, that the function of such a workshop could be performed at least as well by occasional threads on the (miscellaneous?) water cooler.
[21:34] <pizero> Maybe better. It wouldn't be hard to do better than this.
[21:35] <MC8> Why do we have a gazillion water coolers, anyway?
[21:35] <MC8> (side note, I still think SD is broken)
[21:36] <pizero> heh.
[21:36] <pizero> We only have five, don't we?
[21:37] <pizero> It helps keep things from getting tangled. I do have doubts about mirroring it all on WN:Water cooler.
[21:37] <Wikilink2_> http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/WN:Water_cooler
[21:38] <pizero> It's not really on that page, so mirroring it there seems rather muddling. It does make a semi-convenient way of figuring out which cooler a thread is on.
[21:40] <pizero> Projects that have a single page for all discussions are kind of a mess.
[21:42] <pizero> If nothing has happened by the end of the hour, can we pack up and go home?
[21:43] <MC8> I expect so
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[22:00] <pizero> Well, I suppose a no-show like this qualifies as "mostly harmless".
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[22:02] <MC8> pizero: the most productive so far? :P [19:39] -!- Picochip08 [Picochip08!~Picochip0@wikimedia/Microchip08/bot/Picochip08] has joined #wikinews-workshop
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[20:51] <MC8> This is shaping up to be an awesome turnout
[20:54] <pizero> This is what it looked like building up to the hatefest four weeks ago.
[20:54] * MC8 debates blinking the site notice
[20:55] * MC8 nominates pizero as chairperson
[21:00] <pizero> Good grief, I don't have the confidence to do stuff like that.
[21:01] <pizero> Here's an extra topic for discussion, though: Is every other week too often for these things?
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[21:10] MC8 changed topic of #wikinews-workshop to: Welcome to the Wikinews workshop! | Agenda and logs: http://enwn.net/492B0 | Publicly logged | Next meeting NOW!
[21:10] <dendodge> Is anything happening in here?
[21:11] <pizero> No.
[21:11] <dendodge> Shame.
[21:11] <pizero> Lack of turnout suggests lack of a genuine need.
[21:11] <dendodge> I'll linger anyway, since I have nothing better to do.
[21:11] <pizero> One would hate to miss it if something *did* happen.  :-)
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[21:12] <pizero> Don't know that anyone is logging.
[21:13] <MC8> Picochip08 is (properly, this time)
[21:13] <MC8> ...
[21:14] <pizero> Eek.
[21:14] <MC8> I don't remember programming that
[21:14] <pizero> Short term memory is the first to go.
[21:14] <Wackywace> Fun, fun, fun, fun, fun, fun.
[21:14] <pizero> Anyone have any thoughts on "How should we welcome the University of Wollongong's journalism students?"?
[21:15] <pizero> <crickets chirp>
[21:15] * MC8 has no ideas whatsoever
[21:15] <dendodge> Are they still doing it?
[21:15] <MC8> But they're about to drop off the queue, I tagged a few as abandoned today
[21:15] <dendodge> I thought they would have finished by now.
[21:16] <MC8> Some of them are awful, I don't think they've read the SG
[21:16] <MC8> (hm, chatham house rules might be worth it next time)
[21:17] <pizero> I've really lost track of who the UoW students are.
[21:18] <Wackywace> Not sure, but this looks like one given it's about AUS: Journalist's arrest sparks alarm over the legality of social networking activity
[21:18] <Wikilink2_> http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Journalist%27s_arrest_sparks_alarm_over_the_legality_of_social_networking_activity
[21:18] <MC8> pizero: there's a list on AAA iirc
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[21:20] <pizero> Yeah, mayb. There'd been some possibles (and definitely's) accumulating on the water cooler, at least some of which did get copied to AAA. Not sure they all did.
[21:20] <pizero> *maybe
[21:21] <MC8> There's not been a definitive list
[21:22] <pizero> Brianmc had started to put together a careful analysis of edits-by-phase to each of their articles, but I'm pretty sure that didn't get maintained.
[21:22] <dendodge> There's a category somewhere, isn't there?
[21:22] <MC8> yeah, {{UoW 2011}}
[21:22] <Wikilink2_> http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Template:UoW_2011
[21:22] <MC8> (has a link, I know that's a template :P)
[21:23] <Wackywace> Someone's just made this; a news article from 2009. Has no develop tag? Barack Obama speech in Prague, 2009
[21:23] <Wikilink2_> http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_speech_in_Prague%2C_2009
[21:23] <pizero> Huh. There's a .
[21:23] <Wikilink2_> http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Category:UoW_student
[21:25] <MC8> Wackywace: nice article though
[21:25] <MC8> it might have just been c&p'd off archives, perhaps?
[21:26] <MC8> I say "nice", I mean "nicely formatted". It's a presser
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[21:27] * MC8 watches a tumbleweed roll past
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[21:30] <pizero> If we don't want to give up on these workshops altogether (don't know, myself), perhaps it would make sense to make them monthly.
[21:30] <MC8> Well, this one is de-facto "not running", isn't it?
[21:34] <pizero> I was saying after the one four weeks ago, that the function of such a workshop could be performed at least as well by occasional threads on the (miscellaneous?) water cooler.
[21:34] <pizero> Maybe better. It wouldn't be hard to do better than this.
[21:35] <MC8> Why do we have a gazillion water coolers, anyway?
[21:35] <MC8> (side note, I still think SD is broken)
[21:36] <pizero> heh.
[21:36] <pizero> We only have five, don't we?
[21:37] <pizero> It helps keep things from getting tangled. I do have doubts about mirroring it all on WN:Water cooler.
[21:37] <Wikilink2_> http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/WN:Water_cooler
[21:38] <pizero> It's not really on that page, so mirroring it there seems rather muddling. It does make a semi-convenient way of figuring out which cooler a thread is on.
[21:40] <pizero> Projects that have a single page for all discussions are kind of a mess.
[21:42] <pizero> If nothing has happened by the end of the hour, can we pack up and go home?
[21:43] <MC8> I expect so
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[22:00] <pizero> Well, I suppose a no-show like this qualifies as "mostly harmless".
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[22:02] <MC8> pizero: the most productive so far? :P