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New group of students[edit]


Greetings from USI! I have a new group of students for the class that contributes to Wikinews in the spring. I will meet them for the first time this week. I'm hoping that we can replicate what we did last time. Do you have any suggestions?

Crtew (talk) 21:21, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

  • Oooooh, tricky.
We're still bumping along on near-empty here, so my concern has to be how students can make life easier on reviewers. This, in a somewhat perverse way, mirrors real-world problems in journalism — where are the fact-checkers, copy-editors, and such? The odds are going to be that Pi zero (talk · contribs) will review many of their submissions, but they need not consider it in an adversarial manner. Reviewers are here to help, and to stand behind the stories journalists submit. They're more than welcome to pop into online chat and ask what might be the biggest-challenge to getting a potential story through review and published. Reviewers are, to some extent, the people who will defend the story they've just had published whilst they work on getting the next one. If we can clear that hurdle early-on, I suspect students will get far more out of contributing, as well as Wikinews getting far-more articles from assigning contributing as coursework.
It also reminds me I need to nag people in Wikimedia UK regarding the Train the Trainers course they put me through. Getting the accreditation on that will involve polishing up the "Intro to Wikinews" thrown together for that. I look at my local contributions for 2014, and know that wouldn't have been possible without our review process. Yes, my "dumbing down" into photojournalism is clearly evident, but I'd welcome seeing students going in completely their own direction. Knowing how to take something off the wire and put it in 'House Style' is the easy part, putting together stories which will get considered by wire services and sold internationally has to be part of the envelope students push. --Brian McNeil / talk 01:48, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks very much[edit]

Thank you for your comments at WN:AAA in support of me.

Much appreciated,

-- Cirt (talk) 19:58, 29 January 2015 (UTC)