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I taught high school for fifteen years. There is not much intelligent life on this planet.
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With all due motivation and enthusiasm, I have been trying to develop Wikinews. I regret to say this but review's are discouraging me at any go. I require your guidance and experience but why do you seem to be so arrogant. After 3 days, having received no comment I have put two of my articles under publish Cricket World Cup: Bangladesh defeated Afghanistan by 105 runs, Demolition of Hindu temples in the US , wrote on the wall ' Get Out ' condemnation around. At least cite a reason for their shortfall, don't remain arrogant. --Abhinav619 (talk) 02:11, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

  • Reviews (no apostrophe) are intended to set the bar particularly high. As the comments on the cricket article highlight, there's a line which reviewers cannot cross in-terms of how much editing they can undertake. That, incidentally, isn't a failing review; simply a recommendation to copyedit. Looking at the article, I think they key point from what is close to publication would be to make more use of active voice.
The second submission has similar issues; a need to copyedit: "Maha Shivaratri festival was celebrated in Washington,United States when hate messages were found written on the wall of the temple." Really? You do realise that reads as the festival being celebrated as a result of the hate messages?
It can be particularly difficult to write useful pointers into a review requesting additional work. Carrying out a complete rewrite isn't likely to significantly improve the quality of someone's submissions. This leaves us in a difficult situation with regards to constructive criticism. But, it's that insistence on writing quality which has led to three universities assigning contributing to Wikinews as a part of their journalism degree courses. They have articles that don't get through review, so you're in good company. --Brian McNeil / talk 10:36, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
  • I now also note you attempted to self-publish. That has been made technically impossible on English Wikinews, and is a particularly grave policy violation. The credibility of what we publish, and distribute through social media to 50,000-odd followers, rests on everything passing an independent review. --Brian McNeil / talk 10:47, 20 February 2015 (UTC)