User talk:Icedragon

Article submission

I'm going to move your article submission to User:Icedragon/Google story, just temporarily. We have one article on this story (Former Google employee says he was fired because of blog comments Feb 12). I haven't double-checked your story completely, but it sounds like your article may be covering the story from a different angle. If you think our current story covers the story well enough, add the text {{delete}} to the top of it and I'll delete it. If you want to run with your story, we'll need to source all the factual claims and quotes. If this was a copy of a published article, we'll need to re-write it to conform with copyright requirements. In either case, it's a great story idea! Thanks for your submission! - ~~~~

I beleive they are two seperate incidents. The story I was covering is under the requested articles section as "White House reporter used fake name, had partisan ties" (sorry for not posting that as an interior link, still getting used to wiki formatting.) The claims and quotes were not found dircetly by me, and are from the various sources I have listed at the bottom of the article. One thing I need to check on is whether or not the documents were actually classified or not, So the headline wording may end up changing. As for the language and rhetoric used it's mostly mine, with small sections probably resembling some of my source's text. --Eric Bash 20:40, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Cool. Actually, I messed up and posted the wrong link... I'm pretty sure another contributor was working on a similar story, but since I can't find it, go ahead and develop yours. If there's anything I can help with, drop me a line on my talk page (which is getting long, I know. I'll clean it up rsn.) - Amgine 20:43, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

You may want to take a look at the Sources section of another article to see how sources can be cited using a template. Also see Wikinews:Writing an article#List your sources for a good explanation of it. - Amgine 20:57, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Alright, went ahead and formatted my sources. Anything else it needs for finalization?--Eric Bash 21:29, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Looks good! Now, there are a few formatting issues.

The first line in the document should be {{date|Month DD, YYYY}}. This will put the date the article was written at the top, plus add it to the proper date category. You can read about this in the Style guide.

Also in the style guide, although you have written the vast majority of this article, over the next couple weeks it will be examined by hundreds of people who may add to it, cut sections, rewrite things. This is what Wikinews is about. You have to be ready for that, and realize it's not "your" article once you submit it. This is also why we don't include people's signatures.

If you're ready to have your article scrutinized and changed, I'll help you get it submitted. - Amgine 21:36, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Added the date and removed my sig, Was mainly looking for some credit on it as it would probably help my college applications to say I got a news article published. Then again, Wiki keeps track of the original author in the change log, so that works too. --Eric Bash 21:50, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

<nod> I understand. And every edit you make is available from your user pages - see the User contributions link in the toolbox in the left-hand column. Many users also keep a list of articles they started or made large contributions to on their user page, I think Carlosar does this, if you want to see one in action.

Now then, let's get your article moved to the main article space. I'll do that then add a bit more here. - Amgine 21:55, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Getting it posted

Now, the article is located at Conservative White House Reporter Using Pseudonym Gains Access to Presidential Press Briefing and Classified Documents. Normally you create your article via the Article Workspace, which has a nifty link for creating the first link to it in the developing stories template. (The developing stories is listed on the main page, so your article immediately gets main page coverage)

The Workspace is in the navigation box to the left.

Once an article has been completed, at least to the stage you think it's ready, you can post it to the day's archive which will put it in the "Latest news" template, which again is on the main page. The main page link actually links to this page, today: Wikinews:2005/February/15 (It is automatically updated.)

If you go to that page, you can click the [edit] tab at the top of the page and it will let you add your article to the top of the list of articles already there. I'll stop adding bits here and let you take a crack at doing what I've been talking about. - Amgine 22:04, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

You're live, and on the main page. - Amgine 22:10, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Ok, well the hard part's over at least :) Do I now go and remove the request from the requested articles section? --Eric Bash 22:14, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

<nod> You clean up the requested article, and if it is in the developing stories you pull it out of there, too. If you want someone to look at it for copyediting, add it there. If it was also submited at submit a story, you erase it from there, too. By the way, do you have IRC? There is a link at the top of every page to our IRC channel. Might be easier to communicate there.