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Bunker going down on youtube had nothing to do with Scientology but with the fact that Viacom shot him down for copyright violations not related to Scientology. Not that the truth would be of interest to anybody here. [[User:Misou|Misou]] - ([[User talk:Misou|talk]]) 16:40, 23 April 2008 (UTC) |
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I am e-mailing youtube, Bunker and Christman. I am also uploading a screenshot. You can go to youtube and search for 'xenutv1' which is Bunker's account to see the red tag "account suspended.' ''[[User:DragonFire1024|DragonFire1024]]'' ('''[[User talk:DragonFire1024|Talk to the Dragon]]''') 22:45, 17 April 2008 (UTC) |
I am e-mailing youtube, Bunker and Christman. I am also uploading a screenshot. You can go to youtube and search for 'xenutv1' which is Bunker's account to see the red tag "account suspended.' ''[[User:DragonFire1024|DragonFire1024]]'' ('''[[User talk:DragonFire1024|Talk to the Dragon]]''') 22:45, 17 April 2008 (UTC) |
Revision as of 16:40, 23 April 2008
False Report
Bunker going down on youtube had nothing to do with Scientology but with the fact that Viacom shot him down for copyright violations not related to Scientology. Not that the truth would be of interest to anybody here. Misou - (talk) 16:40, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
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I am e-mailing youtube, Bunker and Christman. I am also uploading a screenshot. You can go to youtube and search for 'xenutv1' which is Bunker's account to see the red tag "account suspended.' DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 22:45, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
Replies
- Mark Bunker:
- YouTube's first response (press@youtube.com):
I'll try to get back to you ASAP, but can you please let me know what is your deadline?
ThanksDragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 23:17, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
- Critics respond via YouTube. E-mail sent to youtube for further response:
Hello xxxx. I must admit, that I have little time. there have been replies from both Mr. Bunker and Mrs. Christman posted to your website in their own videos.
In all fairness, I hope that YouTube would reply so that we may accurately report your side of the issue.
Thanks again, Jason SafoutinDragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 01:11, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 01:33, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
- Tory Christman: Interview performed on Skype.
- Anonymous source: Information regarding 4chan.org. Close to operation so has to remain anonymous.
Image (screenshot)
I think the screenshot should be cropped so that it does not show other copyrighted material, such as Mozilla and Google and their logos. --SVTCobra 23:22, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
Potential sources
Could be used as potential sources for stuff, if need be, will list below. Cirt - (talk) 23:51, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
- "Youtube is Censoring Online Critics (again)" — Pittsburgh Bloggers, April 16, 2008
- shane.vincent. "YouTube cancels account of former Scientologist" — Global Toad News, April 16, 2008
- Richard Ford. "Scientology go to war with You Tube." — scientologyworld.com, April 16, 2008
- revanchist. "YouTube Unbans Tory Magoo" — echo chamber, April 16, 2008
- "Tory Magoo Suspended from YouTube" — Temple of Xenu, April 16, 2008
- "torymagoo44 account suspended" — Enturbulation.org Activism Forums, April 16, 2008
Tory Christman interview
Interview with Tory Christman took place on Skype, with DragonFire1024 (talk · contribs) and Cirt (talk · contribs). The interview ran for 8:40 minutes and finished at 12:56 UTC April 18, 2008. Cirt - (talk) 02:09, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
Digg IT
Digg IT!. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 04:49, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
Ping
- www.huliq.com - This is interesting, one of the main differences being that advertisements appear at the upper right-hand side for "Truth About Scientology", with a link to Scientology.org. Curious. Cirt - (talk) 05:46, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
- www.mister-info.com - Here is another one. Cirt - (talk) 09:43, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
- mensnewsdaily.com - Another one. Cirt - (talk) 17:47, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
- www.religionnewsblog.com - One more. Cirt - (talk) 00:57, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
- mensnewsdaily.com - Another one. Cirt - (talk) 17:47, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
- www.mister-info.com - Here is another one. Cirt - (talk) 09:43, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
ToryMagoo suspended again
http://www.youtube.com/user/ToryMagoo44 ToyMagoo's account has been suspended again. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by EvilHom3r (talk • contribs)
- Well I just checked and it appears to be accessible at the moment. Cirt - (talk) 08:08, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
ok, aparently they were deleting ToryMagoo69 (a scientologist imitating tory) and they accedently deleted her account insted of the imposter —The preceding unsigned comment was added by EvilHom3r (talk • contribs)
- Ah, thanks for the clarification. Cirt - (talk) 08:20, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
- Roger Friedman. "Cruise, Travolta: Homo-novis" — FOX News, April 18, 2008
- Neat that we got this article out before FOX News covered it - looks like they were doing a lot of the exact same research at the same time. Cirt - (talk) 09:05, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah looks like. Or they just changed what we had and added it to their site while we were waiting for replies. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 10:30, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
- Nah, it's clear they did a bit of their own digging from the article. Cirt - (talk) 10:37, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah looks like. Or they just changed what we had and added it to their site while we were waiting for replies. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 10:30, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
- Ryan Tate. "Jason Beghe's Anti-Scientology Video Cancelled In YouTube's Area" — Gawker.com, April 17, 2008
- Minor tidbits of some info not in this article - looks like it was posted sometime around the same time that this article was published. A nice piece. Cirt - (talk) 13:09, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
- Ryan Tate. "Celebrity Ex-Scientologist: "Let Will Smith Know That His Shit Was Fucking Recorded"" — Gawker.com, April 16, 2008
- Ryan Tate. "Actor OT V: "If Scientology Is Real, Something Is Fucked Up"" — Gawker.com, April 14, 2008
- 2 previous posts on the same topic at Gawker.com, in the category Jason Beghe. Cirt - (talk) 13:14, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
- Veronica Schmidt. "Jason Beghe Scientology video removed from YouTube" — Times Online, April 18, 2008
- Wow, multiple major news sources have now piled on this story after we published. This is really neat to follow. Cirt - (talk) 13:35, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
- Just wish we get quoted and also wish that they would give us the credit for breaking this story. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 18:33, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
Cause
Not sure if you can use this as any sort of appropriate source, but it's been said that the issue apparently arose because of a copyright infringement (featuring Stephen Colbert) on Mark Bunker's old account, combined with the fact that he's currently using a second account against regulations. It remains unclear who instigated the investigation that lead to a suspension on these grounds, however. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.211.210.48 (talk) 05:38, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
- Well there is a bit of that info in this article already, and I'd rather no go changing the content of this article at this point, but it might be something potential for another article at some point. Cirt - (talk) 06:39, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
GlossLip update
- "Mark Bunker, XenuTV.Com, Youtube, Scientology Saga Continues" — GlossLip, April 18, 2008
- Will continue following this to see if it gets more exposure in mainstream news/media. Cirt - (talk) 08:12, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
I've removed this image because I would question the value of it to our readers. All it says is "Account suspended", there is no indication of whose account it refers to and so it doesn't really add much to the story. I'd also note that even to read the relevant part of the image readers have to click on the thumbnail. I don't think this benefits readers enough to justify it's inclusion or it's use under "fair use". Adambro - (talk) 09:47, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
- Okay no prob. Cirt - (talk) 09:51, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
New Account
- http://de.youtube.com/user/xenutruth9 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.177.180.216 (talk) 22:45, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
- That is NOT a new account and it is NOT Mark Bunker. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 22:52, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
GlossLip to interview Mark Bunker on radio program
- "GLOSSLIP RADIO EXCLUSIVE: Mark Bunker, XenuTv.Com, April 20th, Sunday, 10:00pm EST" — GlossLip, April 20, 2008
- Per the source, they will be discussing the events described in this article, the Jason Beghe interview video, Bunker's YouTube account being suspended, etc. Cirt - (talk) 07:30, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
Mark Bunker post on his blog 'My YouTube Account'
- Mark Bunker. "My YouTube Account" — The Wog Blog from Xenu TV, April 19, 2008
- Lots of additional info here from Bunker himself. Cirt - (talk) 07:38, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
Jason Beghe Interview at Xenu TV blog
- Mark Bunker. "Jason Beghe Interview" — The Wog Blog from Xenu TV, April 21, 2008
- Interview in 6 parts. Cirt - (talk) 10:47, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
- Tony Ortega. "Jason Beghe on Scientology: The Full Interview" — The Village Voice, April 21, 2008
- Brief post by Tony Ortega of The Village Voice on the release of the full interview. Cirt - (talk) 14:23, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
- Tyler Gray. "Jason Beghe's Scientology Interview in Full" — Radar Online, April 21, 2008
- Also has links to prior articles on subject in same publication. Cirt - (talk) 17:20, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
- Web Scout. "Jason Beghe, Scientology's newest critic; Norway joins the fray" — Los Angeles Times, April 22, 2008
- Okay now the Los Angeles Times has taken notice. Cirt - (talk) 23:33, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
- Roger Friedman. "Jason Beghe: Scientology a 'Con'" — FOX News, April 22, 2008
- Interesting article in FOX News. Cirt - (talk) 11:18, 22 April 2008 (UTC)