User talk:SVTCobra

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US: Tennessee House and Senate pass The School Safety Act of 2018[edit]

You've noticed, of course, that the article is quite stale, right? (I know, it can take a long time to review an article that's obviously a no-go, because one wants to give the reporter plenty of feedback so they can improve. I just did one like that myself.) --Pi zero (talk) 14:11, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

Yes, I just want to see if I ca help the author i style tips. Also, if Gov. signs it should be good to go. --SVTCobra 14:16, 3 May 2018 (UTC)
I believe that reporter — whose enthusiasm I've noticed, I agree they're well worth helping with feedback — is still struggling with the whole "write in your own words" thing. (Best example I know of advice that doesn't help someone who hasn't got the hang of it yet: "write in your own words".) --Pi zero (talk) 14:23, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

NASA InSight article pending edit[edit]

Two edits were submitted (history); I examined and rejected the earlier one, which seemed to really want a second set of reviewer eyes on it, and left a remark on the talk page. However, the second, smaller edit I left pending, as it seemed to call less for a second set of reviewer eyes and more for an inspection by the reviewer who did the review in the first place and is, presumably, already fairly immersed in the material. So I invite you to take a look at that. If you want me to dive into it, of course, just let me know. --Pi zero (talk) 20:21, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

I commented and pinged the author on the collaboration page. --SVTCobra 20:40, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
The author has replied but rather than disallowing the reverts myself, I think it best that you look at both of our comments on the collaboration page and make a decision. --SVTCobra 22:38, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
Noted. --Pi zero (talk) 22:45, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
Special:Diff/4404622 I wish you didn't open that old bag of bones. Wikipedia is pretty consistent in disallowing user-edited sources. And just imagine the circular nightmare if both WP and WN allowed each other as sources. I feel your comment is just saying "Wikinews is better than Wikipedia". Cheers, --SVTCobra 23:26, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
This has nothing to do with "better"; they're fundamentally different, serving different functions and having operational properties profoundly different from each other, so that there's no meaningful way to rate them on a single good/bad dimension. Wikipedia is inherently incapable of being a trust-worthy source, and the things Wikipedia would have to do to change that, are realistically impossible — the Wikipedia community would have to embrace things it collectively hates about Wikinews. --Pi zero (talk) 00:04, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
Yes, they lack the reviewed-revisions and people change items that have a foot-noted source to something that's not in the source; but your comment was not exactly endearing nor on-point as far as this specific article. It was a jab at Wikipedia, however justified it may be, and didn't address the issues. Your previous comment was sufficient. Let's not antagonize an obviously talented writer who already knows how to use {{w}} and {{sources}}. He may be a little irritated and possessive/protective of his work, but who isn't when they start out? Some still are after nearly 300 articles. Cheers,--SVTCobra 00:24, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
Meh. The difference isn't about superficial technical stuff like that, but most of the difference also isn't relevant to my comment you've objected to, either. --Pi zero (talk) 01:19, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
OK. Either way, I think we have a pretty good article about the launch. Sorry if it put you off-track again for the automation project. Cheers, --SVTCobra 01:32, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

(Did not know where to drop a message)[edit]

@Green Giant, Pi zero: with SVTCobra and me involved, there are four reviewers online at the moment. RQ is flooding, I will be writing articles, and Pi zero does not write (haven't seen them writing for three years) so maybe all need to pick an article, and if possible, use an IM to properly communicate to work more efficiently. (Oh, by the way, the article I am working on is on the last day, so kind of urgency :-/ but well, we need a very instant type of communication medium)
•–• 17:29, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

Pakistan transgender article[edit]

Hope I'm not stepping on your toes. --Pi zero (talk) 21:12, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

Don't forget to sight the page after protecting against renaming[edit]

•–• 06:25, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

OK, I didn't think it was the type of action that needed to be sighted. I'll keep it in mind going forward. Thanks, --SVTCobra 06:39, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
I don't know the complexity involved -- in certain cases a protected (maybe the archive protection -- edit allowed for admins) would allow only admin + reviewer to sight it; however, changing protection will add a [review] message.
•–• 06:43, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
BTW, you think you can do a late night review?
•–• 06:43, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
Also, do you know any native German speakers? I guess @Green Giant: knows Deutsche.
•–• 06:45, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
In real life, yes, but on Wiki I do not. I see Green Giant has contributed to dewp, but usually in English on talk pages, and often apologizing for basic knowledge of German. My own German topped out at a couple of university level classes, but it is very rusty. Cheers, --SVTCobra 06:59, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
In real life, you say? Would they translate a couple of German articles for us on a fine Saturday?
•–• 07:03, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

If they agree, here are the links: 1, 2. I want it in this format.
•–• 07:06, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

Same here, I studied French and German at university but I wouldn't describe my current knowledge of German as more than a conversational level. Green Giant (talk) 08:34, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
The people I know are acquaintances I gathered professionally. They are, without getting too specific, what you'd call businesspeople. If I were to contact them, it would be for a job referral or reference. I shan't trouble them with this. --SVTCobra 10:32, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

Need your urgent help[edit]

Might even consider joining #wikinewsie-group on IRC so that we can discuss this situation in real time. Need to get this one done in less than 3:30 hours. Sudanese teenager sentenced to death for killing husband in self-defence after being raped
•–• 20:34, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

If you keep it short, I can give it a review. But if I discuss too much on IRC, I might violate the rule about being involved with the development. --SVTCobra 20:41, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
I don't think you can be involved in the development of an article that is already written on the paper. Will be ready in ten minutes or so, excluding time to hyperlink. Gosh, we need an etherpad so badly.
•–• 20:53, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
Yeah, I would have been happy to add {{w}} at the same time as you add more text/sources. --SVTCobra 20:57, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
Done. BTW, we could, in future use Wikimedia's etherpad, as I have used it for speeding up reviews, with numbermaniac. Ironically, on the same day, to speed up a review, I tried to tackle one real-life task which ended up me getting in an accident and I then I could move only two fingers.
•–• 21:15, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
ok, we can talk about etherpad later, I know nothing about it as of now, had to look up the word. --SVTCobra 21:19, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

55 dead in Israel-Gaza border clashes[edit]

Exams tomorrow. Overslept today. Would you mind reviewing it?
•–• 10:57, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

Hey Old Buddy[edit]

Hey is MessedRocker still active around here? What about Neutralizer? -MyName/Wazzawazzawaz

Hi, no I have not seen MessedRocker in a long time. --SVTCobra 23:59, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

Adding images[edit]

There's been some shifting around, over time, regarding how "involving" it is for a reviewer to add an image during review. A few years back, during times when I was usually the only active reviewer on the project for months at a time, it was not uncommon for me to add an image during review (I think; truthfully it's been a while, but I'm sure it sometimes happened, anyway). Because there were no other reviewers around, if I added something after review it would simply never have been reviewed and might as well not have been submitted. However, BRS made the point, comparatively recently, that since we consider the choice of image to be covered by the archive policy (an important policy point), this implies it's a somewhat substantive feature, so it's probably best that a reviewer not add an image during review. Once we have multiple reviewers around, we can clearly afford that, and so I have modernly waited until after I've published an article, then added the image without sighting it, for some other reviewer to consider. --Pi zero (talk) 18:23, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

OK, gotcha. I need to make one stipulation, however, adding a location map should not be part of that practice. It is as benign as adding an infobox. Obviously, if I added an image of Jesus on a Crucifix, with the caption "file photo of a person on a cross" that would be beyond reasonable on so many levels. And I recognise that choice of portraits can be flattering or very negative, so I hope a reviewer can still disallow some images even if they are on Commons for NPOV. --SVTCobra 18:31, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
Actually, some reports suggest that a first century Jewish shepherd and the portrait of Jesus are very different. I guess some people might consider the person in this photo to be Jesus. I hope Quill asks Bucky if he is Jesus.
•–• 18:52, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
Everyone knows Jesus was black. Now, tell me why you removed the map. --SVTCobra 18:55, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Reviewing things[edit]

Any chance you could try the Swaziland article? I should do Hawaii. --Pi zero (talk) 23:30, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

I can try, but I won't be doing the c*b*l bullshit. --SVTCobra 23:33, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
If by that you mean IRC, well, ac should be unavailable now. --Pi zero (talk) 23:41, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Relatos Sobre Sexo[edit]

Please could you delete this page and leave a block note on the original authors userpage? Cheers. Green Giant (talk) 10:29, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

Oops, I goofed on that one. I think it's fixed now. Thanks, --SVTCobra 10:34, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
No worries, easily done. :) —Green Giant (talk) 10:48, 20 May 2018 (UTC)


There's nothing wrong with it, afaik, but it's mostly a few oldtimers (older than me, that is :-) who use its ilk. Like many things set up in the Elder Days of the project, variant source templates seem to be a tradition imitated from Wikipedia (of the time) that got slowly transformed through usage here into a simplified, streamlined form suitable for simple, rapid use in news writing. The upshot being that it's now almost unheard of to use anything but {{source}} for citing sources. --Pi zero (talk) 15:01, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Cobra wikitribune needs you[edit] great place for news wiki --Tribuneman2018 (talk) 22:07, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

I'll take one of the paying jobs, if you're offering. --SVTCobra 22:09, 22 May 2018 (UTC)
The user has requested unblocking, or at least unblocking of the associated ip, so that they can "contribute to Wikinews in a fair way". I had considered asking them, at the request, to explain in their own words why they care to do that, in light of their remarks on Acagastya's talk page; but when I've considered actually writing such a question, and dealing with whatever response it produces, I just feel tired. So I haven't asked. However, even had I asked the question, I feel that as the blocking admin, I wouldn't be the ideal person to close the request.

Thoughts? --Pi zero (talk) 13:54, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

OK, I'll ask. Acagastya's suggestion of getting a rename via Meta would still leave the user blocked here. --SVTCobra 13:59, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

If you have some time to spare[edit]

Would you mind joining IRC?
•–• 10:30, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

I am there. Are you? --SVTCobra 10:37, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

Category:Redirects connected to a Wikidata item[edit]

Experimenting with it? The category appears to be populated automatically. --Pi zero (talk) 13:19, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

Ah, so it is. I guess I expected to see it as a hidden category when I look at Portal:Microsoft. Cheers, --SVTCobra 13:37, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
Hidden categories are, well, hidden. On any but a category, a hidden category only shows up when you're editing; down at the bottom of the edit panel are default-collapsed lists of templates used and of hidden categories. That list is not, btw, updated by the software to reflect the currently preview, but always reflects the most recently saved version of the page. Or it used to be that way. --Pi zero (talk) 12:14, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
I believe the Foundation people set up that category because their confused thinking about what interwikis are good for has led them to the misapprehension that there is something wrong when a wikidata item links to a redirect, so they're trying to psychologically punish volunteers who cause such things by making them think they've done something wrong (part of the Foundation's unconscious anti-volunteer bigotry; at least, in my experience it's usually unconscious). Hence my hiding the category. --Pi zero (talk) 12:26, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
Aha, a little history. --SVTCobra 12:29, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

My new Username. and apoligies.[edit]

I have left my old name behind thank you SVTCobra. Gollum55 (talk) 20:35, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

Late night review?[edit]

Any possibilities you would stay up for a late night review? My writing queue is not empty, but I will write only if it would be reviewed in some hours. Otherwise, I would get some sleep -- no point in writing an article if all four reviewers would go to bed at almost the same time.
•–• 00:26, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

No, but seriously, how do you manage to edit during the daytime as well as at night? I think after November, I could not do that -- either morning hours, or night time.
•–• 00:29, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
It's really terrible sleeping habits. Sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night, sometimes I get by with naps in the day. I don't recommend it. --SVTCobra 11:13, 26 May 2018 (UTC)


See this.
•–• 14:44, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

Though done is done, regarding the renaming in this instance (since there's nothing wrong with the headline as changed), I'm not convinced most of the changes to the article are correct in this instance; it's not at all clear to me that the presented capitalization rule applies here. I floundered around with flaggedrevs (sorry about that), but have finally settled on a state where there's a pending edit that would revert some, but not all, of the changes within the article; and I've left some remarks on the talk page. --Pi zero (talk) 15:32, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
I have replied there. --SVTCobra 15:35, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
Heh. Yeah, I saw the thread had proceeded there whilst I was writing my note here. Cyberspace can produce some strange time skews. --Pi zero (talk) 15:40, 26 May 2018 (UTC)


I will do my best not to pull you into any drama. If you walk away, I will not follow you or tell you to come back (which here means pinging you). Darkfrog24 (talk) 15:18, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

I have no intention to get drawn in. As intelligent, verbose and eloquent as you both are, it is ironically getting real stupid. --SVTCobra 17:28, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
Actually, I think we're making progress. Darkfrog24 (talk) 18:31, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

double links[edit]

If you can see the colour yellow (pizero raised the concern about this failing for someone who can not see certain colours), this script might help you -- User:Acagastya/double.js. It will add yellow as the background colour all the double links in that article.
•–• 19:18, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

OK, thanks, I'll consider it. --SVTCobra 20:50, 29 May 2018 (UTC)


I know you are really afk, but any chance you could accept my the nomination for you contesting for ArbCom?
•–• 12:01, 12 July 2018 (UTC)