Category talk:Cardiff, Wales

Moving to Category:Cardiff

As there is only really one Cardiff (the others being suburbs or ghost towns), is there a decent reason that this category is disambiguated? Aberystwyth, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Southampton. Swansea, and London don't need their country appended; so why is this one special? Thirty articles is still small enough to move. Microchip08 (talk) 01:44, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

I don't see a reason to move it. One of Wikipedia's mistakes has been aggressively shortening article names whenever they figure they can justify doing so, which maximizes subjective decisions whereas an information provider should be minimizing subjective decisions. Category names are database information, not subject to the succinctness motive of news writing, and redundant information is a useful reminder. Although there are cases where I regret the lack of country spec in a cat name (as well as cases where it doesn't bother me, so far), I don't think there's any case where I'd regret including the country spec Not even "Category:London, England". --Pi zero (talk) 08:51, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

I can't see how you can justify Cardiff redirecting here without the cat bearing that name. BRS ^{(Talk) (Contribs)} 13:39, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

Oh, well, that's easily enough explained. :-)  If you write {{w|Cardiff}} and there isn't a redirect to the correct Wikinews category, then it'll default to en.wp, which will be the en.wp article corresponding to this category. So, no matter what this category is named here, and no matter what that article is named on en.wp, the redirect here for "Cardiff" should go to this category, just as "Cardiff" on en.wp goes to the en.wp article corresponding to this category (unless of course we were to have a disambig page for "Cardiff", but that seems unlikely in the near future, I'm sure we can agree). --Pi zero (talk) 13:45, 4 May 2014 (UTC)