Category talk:Sex crimes
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Women's rights
[edit]Directly relevant to this category, so added it. -- Cirt (talk) 22:26, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
- It doesn't sit comfortably with me. It has the feel of saying women are always sex victims (and implying men are always sex attackers). That is feminist propaganda (not accusing you of purposefuly spouting such; it's simply how it comes accross). What I might be more sympathetic to is some cat that dealt with all gender equality/rights issues... One toughie is splitting our own political viewpoints from this. I detest feminism (to stick with it as an example) as hypocritical and a simple reversal of the perceived problem, rather than a solution; one could argue that it actually focuses on the largest facet of a problem and is therefore my criticisms are invalid. Even that targeted discussion gets complicated fast... Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 22:38, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
- You are not saying it is not directly relevant, just that other categories or topics are also relevant. The solution is therefore not to remove a certain category because you object to others not being included, but instead to go and add those others, as well. -- Cirt (talk) 22:40, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
- As I recall, 95% of sex crimes against women are done by men. And 95% of sex crimes against men are... also done by men. Women as attackers aren't unheard of and shouldn't be ignored, but nearly all sex crimes are committed by men (though keep in mind that the vast majority of sex crimes against both men and women are believed to go unreported). Sex crimes against women are also far more common then sex crimes against men. So it has nothing to do with feminism or whatever, it's simply what the statistics say. Men are almost always the attackers, and women are almost always the victims. *shrugs* That's just the way it is. (As a side note it can be claimed that "men usually don't go to the police, so they don't get counted!" That statement is true, but unfortunately that same trend holds true for women. Most sex crimes against women are also unreported.) Gopher65talk 23:15, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
- But, should we undermine that 5%? Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 23:19, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
- Feel free to go ahead and add more categories. ;) -- Cirt (talk) 23:20, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
- But, should we undermine that 5%? Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 23:19, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
- As I recall, 95% of sex crimes against women are done by men. And 95% of sex crimes against men are... also done by men. Women as attackers aren't unheard of and shouldn't be ignored, but nearly all sex crimes are committed by men (though keep in mind that the vast majority of sex crimes against both men and women are believed to go unreported). Sex crimes against women are also far more common then sex crimes against men. So it has nothing to do with feminism or whatever, it's simply what the statistics say. Men are almost always the attackers, and women are almost always the victims. *shrugs* That's just the way it is. (As a side note it can be claimed that "men usually don't go to the police, so they don't get counted!" That statement is true, but unfortunately that same trend holds true for women. Most sex crimes against women are also unreported.) Gopher65talk 23:15, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
- You are not saying it is not directly relevant, just that other categories or topics are also relevant. The solution is therefore not to remove a certain category because you object to others not being included, but instead to go and add those others, as well. -- Cirt (talk) 22:40, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
Wikiquote
[edit]I observe there's also a Wikiquote page for Sexual harassment. With redlinks there for sexual abuse and sexual assault. If there were a Wikiquote page for sexual assault, I suppose it would list rape as a specific form of sexual assault (per en.wp), in which case we could connect to the entire set of Wikiquote pages by linking to sexual harassment; but since sexual assault is redlinked, that solution isn't available and we can't get both targets two-for-one. --Pi zero (talk) 18:37, 4 January 2019 (UTC)