Comments:Bin Laden's former driver convicted of supporting terrorism
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"You are hereby guilty of... driving some guy in a car."
How stupid does that sound?
- It makes perfect sense actually. If you are the wheel man for a bank robbery, you goto jail too. So if you are the Wheelman for a terrorist, why wouldn't you? Is helping a terrorist somehow less wrong? --ShakataGaNai ^_^ 20:24, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
- that analogy doesn't work. by driving the getaway car, one is contributing to the act of committing the crime. bin laden's driver is doing nothing beyond driving him around, as we all drive ourselves around everyday. seems petty. - Imind (talk) 20:36, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
- It does, especially since I assume this driving occurred after the 1998 embassy bombing and perhaps after Sept. 11, the crimes Bin Laden is suspecting of participating in and is wanted for the FBI in connection with. I'm sure Mr. Hamdam was knowledgeable able those allegations and chose to drive anyway (then again, they may have killed him for refusal, I don't know). It's aiding and abetting, pure and simple. —Calebrw (talk) 20:47, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
- meh, it sounds shady to me, and i'm unsure of the laws regarding terrorism. seems silly though, to charge someone for driving another around, as bin laden was not committing crimes while being driven, and if he happened to be driving while, say, bin laden is "conducting business", its still irrelevant to the crime itself, unlike the getaway car driver in the bank heist. i simply can't fathom that this dude is of any threat to anyone if they are simply charging him with with driving. and hasn't bin laden been in the mountains of afghanistan since the planes? - Imind (talk) 23:41, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
- Wow lets forget the fact he had stingers missiles in the trunk of the car. --66.229.12.186 23:27, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
- i didn't read that in the article. then why are they simply charging him with driving the car? - Imind (talk) 23:41, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
- No specifics are currently in the article, but AP says "The military accused him of transporting missiles for al-Qaida and helping bin Laden escape U.S. retribution following the Sept. 11 attacks by serving as his driver." So in that sense he could be viewed as a "getaway" driver. Personally, I find it more telling that this man left his family behind in Yemen to go work for bin Laden. It is not like he was just a random taxi driver. However, I do not believe he had intimate knowledge of what was going on. It was reported that he wept when he was shown video of the planes crashing into the WTC. But I firmly believe he knew who he was associating with and what their agenda was. --SVTCobra 00:04, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
- Great! So that means that Donald Rumsfeld's driver, for example, should also be in jail! More drivers to be in jail, because they drove around war criminals. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.241.149.28 (talk) 07:31, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
- When Mr. Rumsfeld is convicted (or accused of) of a crime in a court of law (not just be people that disagree with his policies), perhaps that might be the case. —Calebrw (talk) 14:24, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
- Cool! So let's make him wear a turban and some bed sheets! He'll be accused within a minute. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.241.109.31 (talk) 18:15, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
- When Mr. Rumsfeld is convicted (or accused of) of a crime in a court of law (not just be people that disagree with his policies), perhaps that might be the case. —Calebrw (talk) 14:24, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
- Great! So that means that Donald Rumsfeld's driver, for example, should also be in jail! More drivers to be in jail, because they drove around war criminals. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.241.149.28 (talk) 07:31, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
- No specifics are currently in the article, but AP says "The military accused him of transporting missiles for al-Qaida and helping bin Laden escape U.S. retribution following the Sept. 11 attacks by serving as his driver." So in that sense he could be viewed as a "getaway" driver. Personally, I find it more telling that this man left his family behind in Yemen to go work for bin Laden. It is not like he was just a random taxi driver. However, I do not believe he had intimate knowledge of what was going on. It was reported that he wept when he was shown video of the planes crashing into the WTC. But I firmly believe he knew who he was associating with and what their agenda was. --SVTCobra 00:04, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
- i didn't read that in the article. then why are they simply charging him with driving the car? - Imind (talk) 23:41, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
- Wow lets forget the fact he had stingers missiles in the trunk of the car. --66.229.12.186 23:27, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
- meh, it sounds shady to me, and i'm unsure of the laws regarding terrorism. seems silly though, to charge someone for driving another around, as bin laden was not committing crimes while being driven, and if he happened to be driving while, say, bin laden is "conducting business", its still irrelevant to the crime itself, unlike the getaway car driver in the bank heist. i simply can't fathom that this dude is of any threat to anyone if they are simply charging him with with driving. and hasn't bin laden been in the mountains of afghanistan since the planes? - Imind (talk) 23:41, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
- It does, especially since I assume this driving occurred after the 1998 embassy bombing and perhaps after Sept. 11, the crimes Bin Laden is suspecting of participating in and is wanted for the FBI in connection with. I'm sure Mr. Hamdam was knowledgeable able those allegations and chose to drive anyway (then again, they may have killed him for refusal, I don't know). It's aiding and abetting, pure and simple. —Calebrw (talk) 20:47, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
- that analogy doesn't work. by driving the getaway car, one is contributing to the act of committing the crime. bin laden's driver is doing nothing beyond driving him around, as we all drive ourselves around everyday. seems petty. - Imind (talk) 20:36, 7 August 2008 (UTC)