Comments:Family blames Scientology for daughter's death
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any religion that tom cruise is a part is trash anyways. that should have been the biggest warning sign in the first place. - someone —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.8.131.52 (talk) 15:31, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
It's worth adding some sort of other links to victims of scientology type information on wikipedia. Yes, I realize that she wasn't a member, but still. Nyarlathotep - (talk) 16:56, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
As much as I despise scientology, wikinews seems overly focused on it compared to other news outlets... keep it up. (184.108.40.206 17:16, 16 April 2008 (UTC))
- The way I see it, the main stream media isn't covering this enough in the USA. This was originally only in foreign sources. Same went for the Belgium government raid on the Church. DragonFire1024 (Talk to the Dragon) 19:48, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
- Agreed. There's precious little reporting on Scientology in US media except for "what wackiness is Tom up to now?" type stuff in tabloids, which paints a false picture of the cult as a harmless bunch of goofballs with an eccentric actor in charge. Countries like Germany and Belgium, which have had more direct experience with the results of cults of personality, know better. -- on WP as User:Kasreyn.
Scientology Denies Connection to death?
Scientology has just shown how dangerous it really is by denying that their test had anything to do with this girl's death. The test said that she was "lacking harmony" and "depressed", she left a note before she killed herself telling her parents that she was sorry for being no good at everything. The test obviously made her feel that way, so if she had not gone to get the personality test she would not have felt depressed and killed herself. I find it distatseful that that Scientology denies any connection. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.127.116.11 (talk) 23:32, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
Personality Test Experience
I had a similar experience when I went into take the personality test as well. This was in St. Paul, Minnesota back in 1998 but the results of the test were similar. I only went in on a fluke, and was in good spirits, after the test came an interview, where a man told me I was depressed and thought about death too much. He recommended some self help books that they sold in order to help correct my ways. My case is not as extreme, however I do believe that these Scientologists were definitely trying to brainwash me and my Wife. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.104.22.168 (talk) 03:00, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
No No No.
I believe the girl was seriously depressed, and obviously had some body issues (as proved by her eating disorder); it is possible that the results sent her into a manically depressed state where she decided to end her life. My argument here is...if she would have went to a school or a library (or anywhere really) and took this personality test, would we still be blaming them for her suicide? for her OWN choice to end her life? I don't believe the Church has any reason to be blamed for this, and personally wouldn't have even considered it in the first place.
- Educational facilities (or libraries [huh?] for that matter) do not put people through the Oxford Capacity Analysis. It can be, and evidently has been, used by others as Scientology sells licenses for the test, but it is not in wide use and is quite controversial. --SVTCobra 23:12, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
The test is bullshit
Any normal human being gets somne low points in the test and the scientologists tell the person that the only way out is to take scientology courses and auditing. Of course most people get very depressed when they hear how bad the test result was. Scienologists are educated in making people feel bad. How else could the make people do their stupid couses and pay millions in worthless auditing. An interesting thing is that one person I know is rather cold, perverted and antisocial. One day he made the test and his results were so good that the scientologists wanted him to start as staff immediately without taking any courses. When he was tested on the e-meter his needle was floating all the time so the also thought he was clear. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 22.214.171.124 (talk) 20:41, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
who was Florian CHIRAUX??? he comitted suicide 13 février 2008 ??? fews days before Kajar gunnar Ballo in street Assalit in Nice IN France ....What ciencidence!!! excuse my english! je reprends en français: Florian CHIRAUX demeurant 20 rue Assalit depuis 2003, jeune homme bien sous tout rapport sans aucun problème psychologique ou autre faisant parti d'une fammile sans problème??parents mariés depuis 1973 plusieurs enfants, garçon très ouvert, sociable, beau garçon, qui aimait les filles et était très apprécié par elles...réalisant un projet professionnel et ayant réussi, enfin toutes conditions réunies pour un suicide!!!!!son seul tort s'être pris la tête avec l'eglise de scientologie, qui avait essayé de recruté deux jeunes filles de sa famille, sans aucun problème psycho, Florian CHIRAUX les avait m!enacé si ils continuaient de s"approcher de sa famille et cela devant plusieurs personnes. il est retrouvé pendu dans sa —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 126.96.36.199 (talk • contribs)