Comments:Israel announces settlement expansion plans
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You need to expand this article to a much larger framing to make this have even a semblance of neutrality. In order for me to respect this site, this must be done. Articles on Israel have been cut short to a few lines, whereas to make them accurate, a great deal of history, knowledge of various biases of organizations including the UN, and various groups not usually represented.
If you truly believe in media accuracy and do not seek to control the masses, you will represent all sides of the issues fairly and equitably.
If you do this, I will read wiki news.
I will continue to check up on you.
- Alternatively, you could provide all that information yourself so that it fits your biased standard for neutrality. Bear in mind, however, that not every article needs a history lesson attached to it - that's what Wikipedia is for.
It is terrible that 150 houses are pending for destruction in East Jerusalem. As for the rest of your article, either you attach all the information, or leave it to commentators to decide what your opinion should be. It is hardly up to you, invisible guider of public opinion. "International law building settlements in occupied territory" the occupied territory you refer to is officially part of Israel. While you do cite an accurate statement, your application of this law is incorrect. "It would be far more accurate to describe the West Bank and Gaza Strip as "disputed territories" to which both Israelis and Palestinians have claims." (from the article on Wikipedia on Palestinian territories. You are disregarding an entire constituent of a nation's, one of the two nations involved no less, view.) "The current Israeli government has made claim to Jerusalem as the capitol of Israel." This is a frame of the "claim" that Jerusalem is the capitol of Israel, as if it were a debate. In the end, a two state solution will require one country and one country only to hold Jerusalem, as neither is mature enough to go without attacking the other. Israel holds Jerusalem, so it is not merely a claim. It is a fact. It is ludicrous to describe Washington, D.C. as a "claimed" capitol, when America was going through its infant stages, which Israel is not. In short, your article is biased and unfounded in several large aspects, although they are disguised as subtleties. Please correct your article and show more deference to multiple views in the future.
- The international community with the sole exception of the U.S and off and on Australia and Britain recognizes the occupied territories to be Palestinian land illegally occupied, including Jerusalem. If I don't call them occupied territories it is bias, if I neglect to mention that settlement building in Jerusalem is illegal under international law I leave out context. I know you want me to leave out context, the decisions of all neutral international bodies, human rights organizations, and every voice except for the nation of Israel, but I'm not going to write my articles that way.Soapy (talk) 01:03, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
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[edit]I have been looking at those sources for months and they are unreliable.
I'm just adding that it's not like Israel has tons of room: the entire Israel is smaller than Coneticut, the smallest state in the United States of America, and Israel is very hard to see on maps, unless they are very gib.
- Uh, yeah, what?. This is Wikinews, not Wikipedia. We don't edit history — nobody here works for the Ministry of Information, right? — we do allude to them, though. Remember we do news. Not NewsSpeak. --Brian McNeil / talk 01:41, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
Some buildings built, some buildings that were built without permits are destroyed. Is this news?
[edit]East Jerusalem was taken from Jordan after it bombed Israel from there. Should Jews be banned from there? Should it be given back so that terrorists can bomb the capitol? 82.80.144.26 (talk) 17:53, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, I was agitated. Giving it to the Palestinians wouldn't be "giving it back". And even if it was, the result would be the same as it was after the Disengagement, only worse. 82.80.144.26 (talk) 11:11, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
- Should any theocracy be tolerated? That includes the Knesset — just to make sure we're clear on this. --Brian McNeil / talk 12:29, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
- This is new. Care to explain how Israel is a theocracy, or are you reaching for new buzzwords? I also don't understand why you refer specifically to the Knesset, a parliament with members of four different religions.82.80.144.26 (talk) 20:28, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
- With it's form as-laid-out in the Jewish holy book. And, the fundamental idea that a religion entitles you to be there. --Brian McNeil / talk 20:38, 22 November 2009 (UTC)