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It's okay people...! This is not terrorism! This is killing people western style, so it's OK! Don't freak out!—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.241.151.85 (talkcontribs)

he meant to say "Hey i support a radical terrorist group that rather let their own people suffer in a futile war with a Nation that is willing to let us live in peace but we are too ignorant to live side by side with Jews unlike our arabs brothers in the West Bank who by the way had a Christmas mass with Jews in celebration of Jesus birth (crazy I know jews and arabs celebrating Jesus!?!)". And they been what firing rockets at Israel for weeks which breaks any truce. Kinda common sense unless you live a double standard life in my opinion. But I hope Hamas is overthrown and someone is place in power that really cares about the Palestinians and their future and not fighting a war that will lead to their destruction.--KDP3 (talk) 14:30, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
Yeah! Palestinians should already be extinct! Go Israel! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.241.151.198 (talkcontribs)
Only someone who is immature or can't stand he/she is on the wrong side of the issue responds like that.And the great Irony. Hamas wants Israel and any Jew extinct.--66.229.21.217 18:22, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
If you take over a people's land, then force them to live under apartheid rule by taking away all their basic liberties and freedoms, and then keep up violent attacks on their population, they are bound to join an army to try and protect themselves, Hamas. Obviously diplomatic efforts are futile, the PLO and all arab states have asked for a two state settlement since 1979, which was met by the Israeli invasion of Lebanon in 1982 which killed 20,000 Lebanese and destroyed the entire country. Well around the year 2000, the Palestinians kind of gave up on diplomacy and started fighting back, something which is apparently illegal by our standards because Hamas is now branded a, "terrorist" group, and I guess the Israeli apartheid system is all peachy. The entire world, with the exception of the U.S, has sided with Palestine, the UN has passed numerous resolutions telling Israel to GTFO Palestine, but Israel never listens, they don't have to, they are an outlaw state with massive nuclear capabilities.Soapy (talk) 18:34, 28 December 2008 (UTC)


HAHAHAHAHAH okay I'm done laughing at the apartheid comment since Israeli gives more rights to arabs citizens then any other arab nations in the whole middle east(I'll let that culture shock sink in for a second)....Done realizing your wrong on Israel and you are defending terrorists? And in fact the Israelis was willing to live in peace with the Palestinians, but the Arab league said no to that back in 1949. And Israel has been out of the West Bank and Gaza letting Fatah and Hamas kill each other. But it seem Hamas sending suicide bombers and rockets into Israeli kinda toss out the whole idea of "gtfo" since its okay for you to attack me but GOD DAMN YOU if I defend my self. But Israeli having nukes dos not bug me. You need to keep Mecca in your cross hairs if you have 2 Muslims nations (Syria and Iran the rest got tired of losing wars and decided peace was a better idea) that want you and your race excite. And entire world? you mean Nations that are antisemitic that are in a UN has more then third of the members are dictatorships?And since I have to answer if single issue you brought up. If the PLO didn't hide in Lebanon, they would never got bomb, Jordan thought it was better to be at peace then Hide terrorist like the POL. PS. I'm the IP that is defending Israel I don't want you to fell that your arguing two people.

--KDP3 (talk) 18:52, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

A previous comment was removed by someone so I'll rephrase it more generally. Everyone who is too excited needs to stop and think some before commenting. Try to say something intelligent, or you would only be trolling and wasting bandwidth. 68.222.134.18 17:15, 29 December 2008 (UTC)


OMG, The drafs is a joke![edit]

"Israel has killed at least 220 Palestinians, including women and children, in response to “Hamas terror operatives” who killed a 58-year-old Beber Vaknin israeli." Seriously? Whoever phrased the sentence as it is in the draft currently, should have his fingers chopped. Nomaed (talk) 15:57, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

on the issue of the who killed more people. Hamas aim to kill many Israeli as possible, civilian or military. Israel target Hamas military facilities and bomb shops. I don't like it that they did it in Day time when the streets are pack but it's better if they get the Top leaders and bomb/rocket makers while they are at work. But i ask you Nomaed, if a country or terrorist group lunch a attack on your nation how would you respond? --66.229.21.217 18:24, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
Remember Lebanon in 2006? Israeli civilian casualties: 48. Lebanese civilian casualties: 1500.
Still didn't answer the question if someone attack your nation what you do? Stand around and hold your D*cks or fight back. If Hamas really care for the people of Gaza they would live in peace with Israel like Fatah and the Palestinians are going right now.--66.229.21.217 23:38, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
I think you misunderstood me. First, it wasn't me responding about Lebanon. Second, if we're talking about the situation and opinions, and not about the new article, Israel should have overthrown Hamas long time ago. No country would allow itself being attacked for so long as Israel have, and it was about time. And indeed, caught Hamas by surprise, to increase damage.
What I meant is that this quoted text, whoever wrote it, is a biased text to show that Israel is the devil, emphasizing phrases like "killed at least 220 Palestinians" (not to mention that at least 180 are Hamas militants), "including women and children" (irrelevant), putting quotes around "Hamas terror operatives" to undermine the attacks on Israel, and "in response to ... 58-year-old Beber Vaknin israeli." (which is completely untrue, it has nothing to do with Israel's retaliation against the continued shelling of Hamas into Israeli civilian towns).
Hope I made it clearer. Nomaed (talk) 09:21, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
I apologize then and I understand now.--66.229.21.217 14:37, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
Still I would find it remarkably hard to defend the tactics that Israël is currently using. The use of massive bombing of the Gaza strip from the air, knowing in full the huge population density of Gaza. To my opinion a ground offensive might be the better option. Not to mention that Israel airforce still uses clusterbombs. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 78.23.84.9 (talkcontribs)
That's my biggest problem with this attack. But Hama's is using civilian areas (Houses and Mosques) as staging grounds to lunch missiles attacks into Israel.And I believe The IAF are not using clusterbombs in this conflict just the good old "smartbombs" and hellfire missiles(I wish along with the US are banned). But a ground attack is coming and what i hear on the news the battle for Gaza for be in the Northern part of the city since according to Fox news that where is Hamas is based.--66.229.21.217 03:57, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
Nomaed I don't believe that your view "Whoever phrased the sentence as it is in the draft currently, should have his/her fingers chopped." is a good way to look at anybodys attempts at editing. On the issue of numbers, you need to add context, for example 20 Israeli's have been killed in 8 year but over 300 have been killed in 3 days, and saturday was the largest loss of life in palestine since the creation of israel. Also as far as i am aware, most/if not all, the rockets fired by hamas have landed in the occupied territories not in israel proper. And I just do not believe that hamas were using a university to fire rockets, usually they are fired from fields.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mrchris (talkcontribs)

slanted timeline[edit]

1 the truce didn't terminate itself - hammas declared it over a day early presumably to make a point of it 2 israel wanted (probably still does) to extend the truce as do most palestinians I bet 3 hammas launched dozens of rockets after they ended the truce and before israel attacked (this is a key point for journalistic integrity) - cite from economist and other neutralish news sources (wikinews is looking less neutral than I anticipated - thus this post) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.107.112.30 (talkcontribs)

So the ending of the truce had nothing to do with the exaggerated demands and unequal offers that the Israelis made tanking the most recent peace negotiations...? 68.210.105.45 04:57, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
Ceasefire and the stop of shooting missiles against Israel is hardly "exaggerated demands". Nomaed (talk) 09:23, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
You obviously have not been following things very well. The details discussed in the actual peace solution, the offers made by the Israeli representatives involved taking vast swaths of land from Palestine and and crippling it as a nation before it can even be restored. 68.222.134.18 17:17, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Story begins in the middle, with no explanation[edit]

This story begins with Israel attacking Gaza, but the airstrikes were aimed at stopping the massive increase in rocket fire from Gaza, initiated after Hamas decided not to extend the six month ceasefire. Not only did they decide to not extend the ceasefire, they fired hundreds of rockets and mortars. Hamas and Fatah did nothing to stop that, so after several days, Israel did something about it. Heavy-handed, yes, but a slap on the wrist doesn't stop the rockets. The "civilians" in the area are being used as human shields. They could have been easily moved out of the way, but Hamas didn't want that. They wanted to fire rockets and they wanted to use women and children as a shield. Hamas wants death - it is all they really want.

This is a difficult situation and when you are dealing with stupid people - who are safely hidden away in Syria, it is made much worse. We all remember what happened when Israel was persuaded not to completely destroy Hezbollah in Lebanon - they used it as propaganda to say Israel was weak. There probably isn't much chance that will fly this time.

This could all be very different, but the people who have the power to change this immediately, don't have the intelligence to do it. 76.114.29.67 23:04, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

But why is that point more significant than the one before, or the one before that, or even before that? Because it deflects blame from the Israeli government for their own actions? You could give a 60 year history and still fail to assign all blame. 74.227.157.87 18:14, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Damages of building[edit]

I would prefer to read something about the damaging of educational building e.g. university. --Wiki von Falke (talk) 10:58, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

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Today is the 2nd anniversary vigil 1-3pm in London. —91.85.173.162 (talk) 10:10, 27 December 2010 (UTC)