Comments:Ten US missionaries charged with child kidnapping in Haiti
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Throw the book at them!
Another case of people who think they have some mission from god that allows them to flout the laws of man! Kidnapping is kidnapping, if they weren't criminals they would have set up or worked through a legitimate adoption program.
- Obversely you never been to Haiti. The average Haitian orphanage does have a better life then a child with parents. Even the fact that the children where being abandoned so Americans can take care of them before the earthquake. And I questioned how the Haitian "government" got the word out on how they change the law. --188.8.131.52 (talk) 19:11, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
- is that supposed to legitimize the kidnapping? The children had it bad there? Really? Your last sentence is hard to read, but the law is the law. There is no reason these people should not be tried. After all, the trial is there to determine if they are guilty and/or deserve punishment. 184.108.40.206 (talk) 19:27, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
- Haitian orphanages received care packages from America so they can go to school (clothes and school books). In Haiti there is no public schools (and this is before the earthquake) only American churches and the UN have schools set up. The schools that are run by the church is mostly full of orphanages. And the issue of "kidnapping", Haiti has pack of kids running around without there parents, And I truly believed the parents of the "kidnap" children freely gave the kids away. And on a side note the Haitian court system is one of the worlds worst organize system in the world. --220.127.116.11 (talk) 19:38, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
- There are two points to consider. The first is that it appears the children were freely given by their parents. Given the statements of acknowledgement, there is still a breach - in other words, the law does not give the parents the right to do so - but it greatly reduces the severity. The second is that it is a defence in many jurisdictions that the actions were appropriate owing to an emergency situation. For example, I will not be prosecuted for parking on the hard shoulder if my vehicle had broken down or caught fire; I would be risking lives to remain on the road. A question for the court: Does the humanitarian situation in Haiti constitute an emergency sufficient to remove children from the country without due process? The fact that there was an attempt by the Americans to verify legality may count either for or against them. For them, in that they were making an effort in a confused situation that they may have perceived as an emergency, or against them because it demonstrates they had determined that the situation was not so severe that they could not afford to spend time checking the ins and outs. The criminal association charge may be more easily defended; again, it partly depends on the exact wording of the statute. Does it require intent, much like a conspiracy charge? This is not as simple or clear-cut a case as either side would like to make it out to be. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 22:24, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
To add a some bit, in a previous related article, it stated that the missionaries did have paperwork but that it was not correct set of papers. Hardly the actions of hardened criminals.User: Guardianstatue
- I always thought cannibals had the best approach to missionaries; treat them as a source of protein. :-P --Brian McNeil / talk 03:30, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
Are we supposed to infer here that US churches approve taking children away from their families rather than investing in the local infrastructure so that the children can have a better life close to their family? Also where is this evidence that there's packs of children (talk of them like they were animals, will you?) running around the streets? Where's the evidence that they're better off now and not being sold to slaver drivers? Can we track the adoptions records somehow? There's much claimed "evidence" here, but no information of where we can check them. 18.104.22.168 (talk) 14:04, 15 February 2010 (UTC)MrSonPopo
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This article about Haiti is really nice. Thank you for putting alot of detail into this article. I am sad to say that people are kidnapping Haiti children. Haiti children have been through alot.