Talk:11-year-old California girl charged for throwing stone in defense
Add topic"in defense"?
[edit]Does anyone think that "in defense" could be a stance of POV? Sure it was in retalliation, but to say "defense" might make it sound like it's a little off track for NPOV. --Mrmiscellanious 06:06, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
- An 11-year-old girl faces serious assault charges after casting a stone at a group of boys who were propelling water balloons at her would stand as defense. -- NGerda 06:13, July 18, 2005 (UTC)
- I'm not going to revert the article name, but I disagree. The girl has been charged with assulting a person by throwing a stone at them. Whether it was self-defense or not is a matter for the court. - Borofkin 00:37, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
"Propelling"?
[edit]I wonder why the word "propelling" was used. Why not "throwing"? Vaxalon 19:29, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
Troubling
[edit]This incident troubles me deeply. It further demeans the law enforcement profession while making women feel less secure on the street by taking away effective means of defense. I also have to wonder about the ethnicity of the parties involved, including both the water-balloon-throwing boys and the police. -- Phyzome is Tim McCormack 12:52, July 18, 2005 (UTC)
- I agree. Imagine a case "woman charged for using pepper spray on attempted rapist" citing this one for precedent. Please tell me there are details missing in this coverage like the girl is a professional stone thrower and provoked the water balloons or something... otherwise, wtf?
- It's happening nationwide. I hear stories like this constantly. It's sickening to know that the police departments of this nation have nothing better to do than to throw kids in the slammer for being kids. --Mrmiscellanious 15:14, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
- Look at it from the point of view from the cops though. Arriving at the scene all they know is that the girl caused a serious head wound to a boy in a group that were throwing water balloons at her. I wouldn't be shocked if the parents of the boy were up in arms insisting she be detained which probably led to the decision. And this shouldn't make women feel less secure since it really has very little to do with her sex. Very dumb on the whole though. --138.162.0.45 15:55, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
Which boy?
[edit]The article says "Maribel [...] said that the boy initiated the conflict — the boy also admitted as much." Is this the same boy that was injured or a different one? Could the text be editted to make this clear? 24.1.63.132 00:41, 19 July 2005 (UTC)