Talk:US Army sergeant sentenced for sodomy of a minor and child porn

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I tried to link to the section of the wikipedia article on the meaning of a bad conduct discharge, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_conduct_discharge#Bad_Conduct_.28BCD.29 but it does not work. Can anyone fix this? 65.1.135.46 19:39, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Bah. Didn't notice that this used a single source. Hang on, I'll try and find some more.Gopher65talk 19:44, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
Hmmm. No one is doing OR on this story except Nancy Montgomery, from Stars and Stripes (there are a few repubs of her stories, but that doesn't count). Several of her articles are listed here. Does this count as single source because the 3 articles are all written by the same person? Gopher65talk 19:57, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
This story is apparently only being followed by Stars and Stripes. It is part of the mission of Stars and Stripes to report on relevant local news for its DoD readership (http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/corres/rtf/512211x.rtf), so this should qualify under the single source exception for local news. Google interpretation of file http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:4Jl-sdyUnUIJ:www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/corres/rtf/512211x.rtf+http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/corres/rtf/512211x.rtf&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us 65.1.135.46 20:02, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
It seems wholly improbable that no German publication would follow a story such as this. --SVTCobra 13:03, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Accept exception for single-source[edit]

After reading the four source articles, I am willing to accept the reliance on a single source in this case. There are three tests for this:

  1. Local: The case seems to be wholly localised to an overseas US base. Though not stated explicitly, the victim, too, may have been on the base
  2. Neutrality: The reporting in the sources seems very neutral (moreso than our article is currently). Considering how this is from Stars and Stripes if they were to have a POV it would go the other way.
  3. Copyright: I thought for bit that this is from a US government source, it is Public Domain, we are not infringing on copyright. But now I am confused:

Stars and Stripes is a Department of Defense-authorized daily newspaper distributed overseas for the U.S. military community. Editorially independent of interference from outside its own editorial chain-of-command, it provides commercially available U.S. and world news and objective staff-produced stories relevant to the military community in a balanced, fair, and accurate manner. By keeping its audience informed, Stars and Stripes enhances military readiness and better enables U.S. military personnel and their families stationed overseas to exercise their responsibilities of citizenship.

Stories and photos by Stars and Stripes staffers are copyrighted, and may not be reprinted or used without permission. E-mail permission@stripes.osd.mil, and let us know what you need. We regret that we cannot grant reprint permission for wire service or other syndicated material, or provide copies of photos from those services.

Anyway, in my opinion, if the story is fixed up a bit, it can be published with these sources only. (I did try to scour German news to my best ability.) --SVTCobra 23:17, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Barberi has been convicted. The sentencing was completed before I began writing. There could be some problems with copy editing since Nancy Montgomery wrote all sources, but I tried to be careful and only copied the short quotes and Barberi's former military rank. Is there a procedure for a strict check? 72.146.181.16 23:30, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
I agree SVTCobra. I looked all over the place (well, as much as I could with my all but non-existent second language skills), and I couldn't find any other publications that did anything but reprint these articles word for word. I'm surprised how little media attention this story has gotten.Gopher65talk 01:11, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
Just in case I wasn't clear: I don't think #3 should prevent publication. --SVTCobra 02:26, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Title[edit]

I changed the title because the source make pretty clear that he was not convicted of child rape nor sentenced accordingly. --SVTCobra 02:04, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

I made that first title quickly for sensational point, but could not change it after research. This one is good, but very long. What about "U.S. Army Staff Sgt. Sentenced for Sexual Abuse of Underage Girl"?
Perhaps. Don't you agree with my title? Anyway, if you change it you need to downstyle per WN:NC. --SVTCobra 02:30, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
I do agree, your title is very comprehensive. I thought that it might be better to leave the greater details of Barberi's sentence to the article body and use something shorter in the title and wanted some opinions. I can not change it anyway. 72.146.181.16 02:32, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
I shortened, perhaps not entirely to you liking, but anyway I am checking out for this rotation. --SVTCobra 02:45, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
This is fine. Very good work. Thank you. 72.146.181.16 02:53, 15 July 2008 (UTC)