User talk:Negative24
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I'm afraid I've reverted your changes there. Wikipedia is not compatibly licensed with Wikinews' CC-BY-2.5 license (although, I'd not be surprised if earlier versions were incorrectly lifted from Wikipedia too). What stuck out more was "/documentation" versus "/doc", which is what's used locally. --Brian McNeil / talk 14:57, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
- So the problem is that the template can't link to Wikipedia or is it that the code can't be taken from Wikipedia? If it is the first case I can remove any links if it is the latter than I don't know what to do. By the way, the documentation mistake was just my own stupidity. It changes from project to project. Negative24 (talk) 18:02, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
- Rereading your message, it seems that you're saying that I can't take code from WP and place it into Wikinews. I have read Wikinews:For_Wikipedians (especially the section on licenses being different) and I can see why you would think that I have violated the licensing. I believe this would only apply to content (as it is creative content) and not code since the code changes were not as immense as to fall under any copyright laws. The only circumstances where code can be copyrighted is in the case of huge systems and applications (such as Microsoft Windows). So, I don't think that this would fall under any type of copyright violation because it is such a small change (and anyways I didn't copy and paste it. I did change it.) Cheers, Negative24 (talk) 18:20, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
- That's not a 'definition of copyright' I'd like to try arguing on Commons. :) Here's something else worth looking at: Template:Location map/permission. I'd like to think the creativity line falls somewhere in-between, but We'd probably be better-off having a template which highlighted imported code and advised people the content displayed comes under Wikinews' license, but duplicating the template code should be done from the Wikipedia original, which is differently licensed.
- We have something 'slightly similar' in the advice on copying related to images. --Brian McNeil / talk 05:59, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
- So what do you recommend I do? The current template is causing word wrap issues and the best way would just to get what works perfectly, being the WP code. But the code is currently under CC-By-SA and needs to be downgraded to CC-By. This means that the license we are trying to go to is more relaxed, meaning permission from the original author is needed. Should I post a message to the authors of the code and ask permission to downgrade their code to something more relaxed? I'm sure they'll be happy to oblige. Negative24 (talk) 13:00, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
- Rereading your message, it seems that you're saying that I can't take code from WP and place it into Wikinews. I have read Wikinews:For_Wikipedians (especially the section on licenses being different) and I can see why you would think that I have violated the licensing. I believe this would only apply to content (as it is creative content) and not code since the code changes were not as immense as to fall under any copyright laws. The only circumstances where code can be copyrighted is in the case of huge systems and applications (such as Microsoft Windows). So, I don't think that this would fall under any type of copyright violation because it is such a small change (and anyways I didn't copy and paste it. I did change it.) Cheers, Negative24 (talk) 18:20, 28 May 2014 (UTC)