Talk:Holy Headdress of Christ carried in procession through streets of Cahors, France

Review of revision 4478277 [Not ready]

Revision 4478277 of this article has been reviewed by Green Giant (talk · contribs) and found not ready at 21:48, 30 April 2019 (UTC). Copyright: Not reviewed. Please address other issues. Newsworthiness: Not reviewed. Please address other issues. Verifiability: Not ready: NPOV: Not reviewed. Please address other issues. Style: Not reviewed. Please address other issues. Comments by reviewer: The article must have at least two independent and verifiable sources. Questions about the above? Ask. If possible, please address the above issues then resubmit the article for another review (by replacing {{tasks}} in the article with {{review}}). This talk page will be updated with subsequent reviews.

Revision 4478277 of this article has been reviewed by Green Giant (talk · contribs) and found not ready at 21:48, 30 April 2019 (UTC). Copyright: Not reviewed. Please address other issues. Newsworthiness: Not reviewed. Please address other issues. Verifiability: Not ready: NPOV: Not reviewed. Please address other issues. Style: Not reviewed. Please address other issues. Comments by reviewer: The article must have at least two independent and verifiable sources. Questions about the above? Ask. If possible, please address the above issues then resubmit the article for another review (by replacing {{tasks}} in the article with {{review}}). This talk page will be updated with subsequent reviews.

English translations of sources

• La Dépêche du Midi:

"Procession of the Holy Headdress in Cahors: a moment of grace lived by nearly 2,000 faithful

...

• La Vie Quercynoise

Cahors. Nearly 3000 people attended the Procession of the Holy Headdress

'...

Probably not the worst translation done by Google translate. Do we need a better one? Genium (talk) 12:07, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

I moved the sources into a dedicated section titled "Media coverage", I added template:original instead since I was there with the idea of taking photos for Wikimedia Commons. IMHO, this article features first-hand journalism by a Wikinews member! Genium (talk) 13:04, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

We can run the articles through Google translate ourselves; the trouble is, automatic translation is done by pushing symbols around with no meaning involved, no understanding; ultimately, automatic translation can be horribly, disastrously wrong, or subtly disastrously misleading. Though it is of interest that you assessed this translation as not-too-bad, and of some passing interest that it's slightly different from the autotranslation Google translate is giving me just now.

We cannot, btw, actually host a complete translation of a copyrighted source on the wiki, because a translation of copyrighted material retains all the legal restrictions of the original (and adds to that whatever additional restrictions may be imposed by the translator). I've therefore removed the text from this page (though in fact, as an admin, I can still consult the text even after it's hidden from general readers of the wiki). --Pi zero (talk) 13:38, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

We'll see how this goes. --Pi zero (talk) 13:39, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

Walkaround

I followed the event from beginning to end. I posted some photos on Commons… Then I wrote a short entry on Wikinews in English because I didn't find any sources in English except the first one, and my feeling is that could interest a wider audience… Genium (talk) 13:04, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

@Genium: Is there any information in the text of the article —that is, anything here other than the pictures— that is original to your first-hand knowledge rather than from the cited sources? --Pi zero (talk) 16:12, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

Yes, about the fact that the event was sustained by the city, the State, and the civil society. I saw posters in front of the town hall and the media library. It was also a cultural event, not just a religious one. Genium (talk) 17:18, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

Review of revision 4478757 [Passed]

Revision 4478757 of this article has been reviewed by Pi zero (talk · contribs) and has passed its review at 17:53, 3 May 2019 (UTC). Copyright: Passed Newsworthiness: Passed Verifiability: Passed NPOV: Passed Style: Passed Comments by reviewer: Interesting story. We really want more detailed reporter's notes for original reporting (OR); and the OR here is not terribly extensive. I'm being generous in my treatment of this OR since this appears to be the reporter's first submission to en.wn, in expectation the reporter will endeavor to improve on various aspects of this in future submissions. It's stretching a point to allow this after six days with the limited OR in it, although it does help a bit that this event evidently got zero coverage by the English mainstream press. The one bit of the article I really found no trace of in the sources (though I could certainly have missed it, in struggling with the source language) was the route of the procession, which I allowed as the reporter specifically says they followed the whole procession, though, again, more detailed reporter's notes ought generally to be provided. The reviewed revision should automatically have been edited by removing {{Review}} and adding {{Publish}} at the bottom, and the edit sighted; if this did not happen, it may be done manually by a reviewer.

Revision 4478757 of this article has been reviewed by Pi zero (talk · contribs) and has passed its review at 17:53, 3 May 2019 (UTC). Copyright: Passed Newsworthiness: Passed Verifiability: Passed NPOV: Passed Style: Passed Comments by reviewer: Interesting story. We really want more detailed reporter's notes for original reporting (OR); and the OR here is not terribly extensive. I'm being generous in my treatment of this OR since this appears to be the reporter's first submission to en.wn, in expectation the reporter will endeavor to improve on various aspects of this in future submissions. It's stretching a point to allow this after six days with the limited OR in it, although it does help a bit that this event evidently got zero coverage by the English mainstream press. The one bit of the article I really found no trace of in the sources (though I could certainly have missed it, in struggling with the source language) was the route of the procession, which I allowed as the reporter specifically says they followed the whole procession, though, again, more detailed reporter's notes ought generally to be provided. The reviewed revision should automatically have been edited by removing {{Review}} and adding {{Publish}} at the bottom, and the edit sighted; if this did not happen, it may be done manually by a reviewer.